1366 X58 Xeon 5650

Sighn · 6 Dec 2015 at 20:16

Does "QPI" voltage definitely refer to RAM?

Just to make sure different posts aren't giving voltage readings for different components, namely RAM and the memory controller that rests within the CPU.

Mr Plow · 6 Dec 2015 at 22:07

I've been having some peculiar intermittent issues with my system, one day it'll be absolutely fine and boot up and run all day no problem. I'll go to use it the next day and it'll either hang starting up or when it loads the windows desktop, checking the event log it has a bunch of these errors:

Source: iaStorA - Reset to device, \Device\RaidPort3, was issued.

Source: Disk - The IO operation at logical block address 0x6fa2d0 for Disk 0 (PDO name: \Device\0000002f) was retried.

Anyone else come across anything similar? I'm running the latest version of the Intel RST drivers that my motherboard supports and W10 is fully up to date.

Apart from giving the CPU voltage a little extra juice I'm running all other voltages on auto and can run benchmarks and CPU stress tests all day without a problem.

Thanks

AWPC · 15 Dec 2015 at 20:16

My now 7 years old Gigabyte X58 UD5 motherboard is finally starting to die. Random restarts no pattern to it. Happens in IE browsing, Gaming or just sitting on Memtest+ screen. It can be stable for 24 hours or slighly longer then suddenly it restarts without warning.

Tried:
New Ram
Testing existing Ram
New PSU
Different PSU
Bios upgrade (Oct 2012 the last official release)
Reflashing the Dual Bios
Win 7 or Win 10 it random reboots on different SSD's (its got quad boot OSes each on a different SSD). So that rules out the OS or SSD corruption
Nothing else left to try really as no obvious signs of dodgy capacitors.

Its just over 7 years old now one of the very first batch of Rev 1 X58 Gigabyte UD5 motherboards sold in the UK back in Nov 2008 :eek:

I know I got a good life out of it & cannot believe the price some people want for manky used X58 motherboards. Seen them going for over £100 not working as spares only which is just ridiculous.

Looks like I have to buy a new system its just not cost effective to spend £200-250 for an X58 motherboard when I can strip this system down & get some money back on it towards a new system.

Ricimer · 15 Dec 2015 at 21:36

My P6TD is rebooting now too, I can make it reboot with a quicksave from fallout 4, not tested GPU/PSU yet.

So, I've finally got a Skylake build working (second try with motherboard) and I've run some short x264 and x265 encodes (only DVD resolution and 25 minute episode though!).

Just some quick results as I only got it working last night.

Code:

X5670 (4.2GHz - no turbo) and 6700K (4.0GHz - turbo default, so no turbo with all cores active)

      X5670 fps   6700K fps
x264  107.83      108.49
x265  62.47       77.35

Not a varied or exhaustive test, but it gives an indication of improvements over the generations (IPC and features such as AVX, FMA)

It also means I can retire my 5670 to being a encoding box for many DVDs without thinking it could be done much quicker on the new machine

essm1988 · 16 Dec 2015 at 09:30

Ricimer said:
My P6TD is rebooting now too, I can make it reboot with a quicksave from fallout 4, not tested GPU/PSU yet.

So, I've finally got a Skylake build working (second try with motherboard) and I've run some short x264 and x265 encodes (only DVD resolution and 25 minute episode though!).

Just some quick results as I only got it working last night.

Code:

X5670 (4.2GHz - no turbo) and 6700K (4.0GHz - turbo default, so no turbo with all cores active) X5670 fps 6700K fps x264 107.83 108.49 x265 62.47 77.35

Not a varied or exhaustive test, but it gives an indication of improvements over the generations (IPC and features such as AVX, FMA)

It also means I can retire my 5670 to being a encoding box for many DVDs without thinking it could be done much quicker on the new machine

please give us links for x265 x264

Drizmod · 16 Dec 2015 at 09:46

AWPC said:
My now 7 years old Gigabyte X58 UD5 motherboard is finally starting to die. Random restarts no pattern to it. Happens in IE browsing, Gaming or just sitting on Memtest+ screen. It can be stable for 24 hours or slighly longer then suddenly it restarts without warning...

Do you have an overclock on yours? tried default clocks on everything? I had a similar issue and it stopped rebooting when I went to default settings. I had a stable overclock for like 8 years ha now im stuck on 2.8ghz

AWPC · 16 Dec 2015 at 10:55

Drizmod said:
Do you have an overclock on yours? tried default clocks on everything? I had a similar issue and it stopped rebooting when I went to default settings. I had a stable overclock for like 8 years ha now im stuck on 2.8ghz

No overclock ever just the std Intel Turbo boost 3.46Ghz (from 3.33Ghz).

I think its the motherboard giving up although the high grade caps should last a long time I guess 7 years daily use is finally taking its toll.

With or without the intel Turbo boost it random restarts there is no pattern to it whatsoever.

Strife212 · 17 Dec 2015 at 01:57

Has there ever been a time before when such an old platform is still good?

CPU progress is rubbish now.

Jarrastafari · 17 Dec 2015 at 12:07

Can't vouch for later releases but sold my 4670K rig after building this from a second PC. This thing is a beast in my workloads and the extra cores and HT helps in games that use 'em. Been on this for over a year now and all I can say is that as much as I'd love a new, shiny 5960K rig; I feel the day I need to retire my Xeon will be a sad day indeed.

Long live Xeon 5650.

Ricimer · 17 Dec 2015 at 21:22

Now transplanted GPU, no rebooting in fallout, so it's either psu or board gone in the 1366 :/

Still, not losing out too much going back to 4 cores at the moment, I will go back to more in the future, it would be nice to think Zen may even be slightly competitive again.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/6839722/fs/6839317#

Jumper118 · 17 Dec 2015 at 21:54

can i join the club? i have a W3670 and x5680 es as well as a few quad cores

. My motherboard is an X58A OC which is currently dead.

but hopefully it will be fixed some time after christmas.

muppet · 18 Dec 2015 at 21:40

right lads/lasses
I have a bloodrage gti and I can tell you Xeons do work with this board. I couldn't get it to overclock at first . I went into the bios and selected 'load optimised settings and now I can overclock . only trouble is every now and then I keep losing my overclock so im guessing I need to fiddle a bit more .ive just done a fire strike run with 2x680s and got 11764 which I thought was pretty good for a platform of this age . my 980 ti arrives on xmas day and I don't think it will be bottlenecked by the x58 platform ( I hope )

cheers

RichardH754 · 26 Dec 2015 at 09:21

1 980ti will be fine, no bottleneck!

kayomani · 26 Dec 2015 at 10:24

I benched my 6700k at 4.6 against my x5650 at 4.0 and its 60% faster per thread. If you just play fps games you'll probably be fine but the reality is that you are going to be bottlenecked a bit imo. I noticed a significant improvement when playing supreme comannder but that does use a significant amount of cpu.

Ste · 26 Dec 2015 at 10:27

What's the difference with the Xeon at 4.5/4,6?

muppet · 26 Dec 2015 at 15:21

wow didn't expect it to be that much slower . eek

AiiR · 26 Dec 2015 at 19:00

kayomani said:
I benched my 6700k at 4.6 against my x5650 at 4.0 and its 60% faster per thread. If you just play fps games you'll probably be fine but the reality is that you are going to be bottlenecked a bit imo. I noticed a significant improvement when playing supreme comannder but that does use a significant amount of cpu.

Not surprised, I benched mine for single threaded performance and it wasn't great compared to newer chips. Although the fact the 6700k is clocked 600mhz higher doesn't make the test a good clock for clock comparison.

DragonQ · 26 Dec 2015 at 22:16

AiiR said:
Not surprised, I benched mine for single threaded performance and it wasn't great compared to newer chips. Although the fact the 6700k is clocked 600mhz higher doesn't make the test a good clock for clock comparison.

It'd be ~40% faster at the same clock speed.

Ricimer · 26 Dec 2015 at 23:58

With a little adjustment for 4.0 vs 4.2 with my 6700K and 5670, then the difference per core with 3dmark physics test is almost exactly 40% more with equivalent clocks.

More with some things (like encoding) if it uses AVX/FMA in which case I found it to be just over 50%.

wam7 · 3 Jan 2016 at 03:13

If you are using the X5670 for multithreaded stuff then it is still viable with those two extra cores.

I picked up one just for encoding.
[email protected] on an old Asus X58 P6T Mem@1758Mhz DDR3

And a 6700k running approx the same clocks;