Don't think it is simply due to sales, not saying the problem doesn't exist on other brands/vendors but far more often when I see those kind of issues mentioned on Gigabyte or MSI, etc. it comes down to people running very large amounts of RAM or high frequency RAM and not understanding you can't just stick on XMP and expect it to be stable.
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14th Gen "Raptor Lake Refresh"
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Don't think it is simply due to sales, not saying the problem doesn't exist on other brands/vendors but far more often when I see those kind of issues mentioned on Gigabyte or MSI, etc. it comes down to people running very large amounts of RAM or high frequency RAM and not understanding you can't just stick on XMP and expect it to be stable.
Soldato
I can categorically tell you from looking at cases daily that memory overclocking misconceptions also account for just as many on ASUS' side
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It is a factor there as well but it almost certainly doesn't cover anything like as many cases of these issues as it does on other brands. Some Asus BIOS versions are putting crazy voltages through 14900s which isn't being seen to the same extent on other brands, which is almost certainly killing some CPUs, which aren't exhibiting the issues out the box, unlike some which show symptoms of being edge cases for stability from day 1.
I get why amd get sales not just beacuse they are the best gaming cpus
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PC Gamers are Switching to AMD Ryzen as Intel 13900K/14900K Chips Continue to Crash & Fail | Hardware Times
Intel has yet to provide a definitive fix for the “root cause” of the crashing plaguing its 13th and 14th Gen K-series processors. We extensively covered this in the past, including an account of our troubles with the Core i9-13900KF and an i7-14700KF. Long story short, Intel recommends all...
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Soldato
I'd implore you to provide a comparison here. Please be sure to use the same CPU to cross-reference as Intel fuses the VID from the factory.
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Buildzoid and others have done videos on it.
Soldato
Which video are you referring to?
Caporegime
Now my 14900KS has been randomly BSOD since last weekI run everything at stock and never overclocked it.
Temps are fine and memtest passed.
Oh dear...
Now my 14900KS has been randomly BSOD since last week
Temps are fine and memtest passed.
What is the voltage range under normal operation?
I need to check when I get home. Anything I need to look out for ?
I'm just curious - some setups seem to be putting significantly more voltage through the chips than others and from what I've seen the silicon doesn't like much above ~1.45v whether that is a 14600, 14700 or 14900 despite the 14900s running in some cases up to 1.7v at stock depending on chip and motherboard.
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Soldato
Now my 14900KS has been randomly BSOD since last week
Temps are fine and memtest passed.
Stock board settings or the new stock intel settings?
I updated to the latest BIOS and kept everything at default. This was released in December by Gigabyte.
I cant run my RAM 6000 MHz, I have to keep it at the slowest speed otherwise it wont boot. Was fine when I had my 13000KF
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Some of the latest Gigabyte BIOSs for 14th gen have been pulled and/or had problems with freezing (usually in the BIOS rather than Windows though), etc. so possible related to that rather than CPU though probably a longer shot, or the CPU isn't liking the changes to CEP, etc. I've stuck on the version before the Intel Baseline/Default changes so far with my Z790 Aorus Master.
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Soldato
Are you aware that some CPUs are fused with a VID beyond 1.5v from factory? Can you explain how that ties into CPUs not liking above 1.45v?
Intel even has VCC max at 1.72V doesn't mean is isn't causing a problem...
Soldato
The same could be said for anything written in the whitepaper. Those values are only valid at stock, and it's possible to exceed stock current by simply enabling XMP. There's no correlation to CPUs exhibiting issues with those that have VID tables exceeding the values you've listed
Was interested in what something like HW Monitor shows under various load conditions.