I'm quite sure you don't even have Intel cpu, and yet you are loudest one to hype Intel, as i said, free market, you can hype anything, and btw creating alt account isn't good thing.
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14th Gen "Raptor Lake Refresh"
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Soldato
Yeap, this is from my neighbours 12900k. 34w @ 15.215 cbr23. Very inefficient
And true, alt accounts isn't a good thing, so don't make one
Nowdays it is easy to get someone else screenshot and post it like it is yours, continue with trolling and creating alt accounts.Yeap, this is from my neighbours 12900k. 34w @ 15.215 cbr23. Very inefficient
And true, alt accounts isn't a good thing, so don't make one
Soldato
Yeap, this is , again, my neighbours 12900k.
Im not an alt account, but seeing how you are so stubborn about it, I assume YOU are a double account and are trying to hide it. Why are you using an alt account dude? Too scared to post with your main?
Say hello to your friend who is so good to invest his free time for you, you sound awfully like Patrick, same type of hardcore Intel fanboy that doesn't see anything other than Intel. From the first post you are agressive, that tells us you aren't new here, you know everyone here, you just created another account and continued with your mission.Yeap, this is , again, my neighbours 12900k.
Im not an alt account, but seeing how you are so stubborn about it, I assume YOU are a double account and are trying to hide it. Why are you using an alt account dude? Too scared to post with your main?
Soldato
You sound awfully like John, same type of hardcore AMD fanboy (always spending his time in Intel threads btw, LOL) that doesn't see anything other than AMD (in Intel threads). Blahblah, see I can say the same about you. You can ask the mods, im not anyone's alt / 2nd / 3rd or whatever number of account you think. Of course, that won't stop you from repeating your nonsense, it's usual for AMD fanboys, they don't really care about the facts.
Excuse my ignorance but if the above is legit does it not just prove how rubbish it scales. At stock 12900k gets about 27/28000 with 260W power. Thats like (@stock) less than twice the performance at about 8 times the power consumptionYeap, this is from my neighbours 12900k. 34w @ 15.215 cbr23. Very inefficient
And true, alt accounts isn't a good thing, so don't make one
Soldato
Thats true for every cpu pretty much. The above results are undervolted, using the same method i can get 28k at 170 watts. Which is still bad scaling but then again, its just physics. Higher clockspeeds mean even higher power consumption. After 4ghz most cpus completely throw efficiency out of the window.
Also it doesnt draw 260 at stock. It literally can't draw more than 240 since that's the power limit. Usually it draws between 200 and 230 depending on the motherboard
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Caporegime
Its true for every CPU? you're trying to say its efficient by undervolting and underclocking it and yet it pulls twice as much power as a Zen 3 CPU with similar performance.
So which is it? efficient or it scales horribly?
Anyone can bring the power down on any CPU by tuning it, that's what's true for any CPU. But it doesn't change what it is in reality, which in ADL case is very inefficient.
Soldato
No it doesnt pull twice. I it score 24.5k at 100w and 28k at 170w. Also, 15k at 35 watts.
Adl isnt inefficient, its just running at very high clockapeeds out of the box. If you find anything more efficient than the score i upload at 35w ill eat my hat
They push power for clock speeds because that’s the only way they can keep up with AMDs more efficient architecture. If Intel had a good platform, they wouldn’t overhaul it ever release. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure they’ll get there with their new fabs but right now they’re just trying to stay in the game.
Soldato
That's only true for the 5950x, and of course only true for a handful of applications that actually take advantage of multiple cores. The rest of the AMD lineup gets beat handily, and even the 5950x gets beat plenty in autocad / photoshop and the rest of productivity apps.
I think it was a stupid decision from Intel to launch with those huge power limits, it drove people (mostly amd fanboys) being focused on the power consumption. On the other hand though, if they had lower power limits but end up losing in Cinebench people (again, amd fans) will be just looking at cinebench r23 and ignore every other metric. So Intel is kind of in a lose lose scenario no matter what.
Fact of the matter is, the 12900k is better than the 5950x, both in terms of performance and efficiency. Just check the phoronix test, they used 381 tests or something, the 12900k has a better combined score both in efficiency and performance.
Soldato
Can you check my ip or whatever and make sure im notnan alt account? Not that it will make any difference to him since he doesnt care about facts, but just in case.
As ive said he himself is an alt account and he is throwing accusation to hide his own stuff. Ill add him to ignore
Caporegime
It does, this is measured at the EPS 12v cable.
12900K: 242 watts
5950X: 120 watts
That's twice the power consumption.
ADL is just bad, why they can't create efficient cpu? even with all those resources and money they still rely on extra high clock to beat competition. I really hope Meteor Lake will be first proper cpu to rely on extra high IPC instead clock, this first generation of big/little should be avoided, very bad thread scheduler, and windows still doesn't use little cores efficiently, ryzen 6000 destroys ADL in efficiency which matters even more in mobile space.It does, this is measured at the EPS 12v cable.
12900K: 242 watts
5950X: 120 watts
That's twice the power consumption.
Caporegime
And they aren't tuned to last just long enough to grab a screenshot before blue-screening
Soldato
I dont get the meaning of your post. Never argued that at those out of the box clockspeeds the 12900 is efficient. Of course its not, and no cpu is running 5ghz all core. If you care about efficiency you would power limit it just like i do, and suddenly the 12900k is the most efficient cpu on planet earth. So the question is, why do you care about out of the box settings? Do you run your cpus at stock or something?It does, this is measured at the EPS 12v cable.
12900K: 242 watts
5950X: 120 watts
That's twice the power consumption.
Soldato
I can run aida 64 stress overnight with my settings. I can do it and post it but that wont change your mind cause you dont really care about the facts, do you?And they aren't tuned to last just long enough to grab a screenshot before blue-screening