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14th Gen "Raptor Lake Refresh"

GamersNexus don't agree , say " desperate and weak launch".

You have better upgrade path with AM5 route with 7950X, am I the only person disappointed with the 14th Gen?.. Anyway glad I went with the Ryzen 7800X3D and not wait :) .

Btw I'm still concerned about the heat and the power usage is on the 14th Gen ie 14900k getting 100c with thermal throttling on a water cooled system on one of the online reviews.
Will this 100c happen when gaming like on warzone & streaming? Just ordered one and concerned now lol
 
GamersNexus don't agree , say " desperate and weak launch".

They can say what they want. The 14700K is still clearly a very powerful cpu for the money right now. If not one of the best "bang for buck" for a new build.
 
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Will this 100c happen when gaming like on warzone & streaming? Just ordered one and concerned now lol

You have a nice heater for winter :) . Anyway gaming wise temps are always lower (then stress test etc) on any CPU which is a good thing for all gamers :) .
Only thing to worry about is your energy bill, do they take credit cards? ;) .
 
They can say what they want. The 14700K is still clearly a very powerful cpu for the money right now. If not one of the best "bang for buck" for a new build.

It's probably the best CPU of the 14th gen range, ie two more cores for less then 2% increase, but when you throw in 13th gen and even some of the AMD CPUs for gamers then I would not say "best bang for buck".

I'll be honest, I was expecting much more from 14700K in performance, so if I was on 12th or 13th Gen, I would wait until next year for either Intel 15th Gen or go AMD.
 
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I'll be honest, I was expecting much more from 14700K in performance

Why?

Its a 13700k with a slight clock bump and 4 more cores.

However the fact it has stayed at the same price point makes it quite an attractive buy. It is difficult to see the point in the 13900k/14900k now.

Also, you say "if I was on 12th or 13th Gen, I would wait until next year for either Intel 15th Gen or go AMD."

Doesn't that largely depend on what you do with your CPU? The 14700k is literally over 50% faster than the 12700k in rendering. Even across all applications the 14700k is nearly 30% faster.

If we are just talking about gaming only, then yes you'd probably only see decent gains in a select view titles. That being said, it still seems ~15% faster in games too.

All in all though, that is pretty significant in my book. By just swapping the CPU out on my system, i could gain a good jump across various tasks. I HATE doing a whole new system/new install of Windows for a number of reasons so a full new system is a long way off for me, and I'd have to see really significant gains (i'm talking triple the performance or something).
 
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Why?

Its a 13700k with a slight clock bump and 4 more cores.

However the fact it has stayed at the same price point makes it quite an attractive buy. It is difficult to see the point in the 13900k/14900k now.

Also, you say "if I was on 12th or 13th Gen, I would wait until next year for either Intel 15th Gen or go AMD."

Doesn't that largely depend on what you do with your CPU? The 14700k is literally over 50% faster than the 12700k in rendering. Even across all applications the 14700k is nearly 30% faster.

If we are just talking about gaming only, then yes you'd probably only see decent gains in a select view titles. That being said, it still seems ~15% faster in games too.

All in all though, that is pretty significant in my book. By just swapping the CPU out on my system, i could gain a good jump across various tasks. I HATE doing a whole new system/new install of Windows for a number of reasons so a full new system is a long way off for me.


I guess you are easily impressed by Intel, to me it's more 13.2 Gen at best, yes there are still some good 12th gen processors for gaming. End of the day it's how often do you want to upgrade and what you do with it.
You also have to factor in motherboard upgrade cost etc depending on what Intel gen CPU you have, some users may not have a choice on upgrading more then the CPU like me, I had to do a full upgrade so AM5 seemed the better option for longevity in my case.

I agree we all have different needs, but I'm still disappointed in 14th Gen however you look at it.

Yes I was speaking as a gamer.

:)
 
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It is a very incremental update on the 13th gen and in that respect disappointing. Unfortunately due to circumstances I need to put together a new gaming build within a month so 14700K ordered - the price isn't terrible for what it is but not great either.

I miss the days when the high end workstation offerings weren't crazy money and reasonably competitive performance wise for gaming - I'd rather just buy a 10-12 core 20-24 thread Xeon. Shame no equivalent to X79 V2 platform exists with this generation.
 
Unfortunately due to circumstances I need to put together a new gaming build within a month so 14700K ordered - the price isn't terrible for what it is but not great either.

I mean, it is probably the best thing you can buy for ~£400 right now/until either company's next gen comes out next year.

It is a shame it is incremental, but it has been known for a while that we wouldn't see anything significant in CPU progress from either manufacturer till mid/late 2024.
 
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The 14700K is now easily the best bang for buck cpu for a new build no?


It is a few percent shy of the top dogs, yet costs significantly less.
Well, it depends on whether you have a non-gaming use case I suppose. It's beaten quite handily by a 7800X3D for gaming and costs more, given you can pick up a 7800X3D for under £370 right now, but it does wipe the floor with one of those once the slow cores are brought into play for non-gaming stuff. As always, depends on your personal needs.
 
Well, it depends on whether you have a non-gaming use case I suppose. It's beaten quite handily by a 7800X3D for gaming and costs more, given you can pick up a 7800X3D for under £370 right now, but it does wipe the floor with one of those once the slow cores are brought into play for non-gaming stuff. As always, depends on your personal needs.

Well, yeh the 7800x3d is a specific use case for gaming.

Though even then, I'd rather take the ~7% loss in gaming, but have nearly 30% more grunt on average elsewhere for (what will likely end up after launch) similar money.
 
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GamersNexus don't agree , say " desperate and weak launch".

You have better upgrade path with AM5 route with 7950X, am I the only person disappointed with the 14th Gen?.. Anyway glad I went with the Ryzen 7800X3D and not wait :) .

Btw I'm still concerned about the heat and the power usage is on the 14th Gen ie 14900k getting 100c with thermal throttling on a water cooled system on one of the online reviews (Hardware Unboxed).

7800x3d no brainer if primary gaming, less power usage, costs less £30-£50 depending if going with k or kf, and ability to drop in 8000 / x3d and maybe even beyond
 
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It is a very incremental update on the 13th gen and in that respect disappointing. Unfortunately due to circumstances I need to put together a new gaming build within a month so 14700K ordered - the price isn't terrible for what it is but not great either.

I miss the days when the high end workstation offerings weren't crazy money and reasonably competitive performance wise for gaming - I'd rather just buy a 10-12 core 20-24 thread Xeon. Shame no equivalent to X79 V2 platform exists with this generation.

I had the same issue ,ie needed a new gaming rig. I was going to wait for 14th gen, but wanted a better upgrade path on CPU plus I hate water cooling, so decided to go with AM5 and 7800X3D since all I do is browse and game now in my old age, I also wanted Starfield so get that free with new AMD hardware, nice to have a decent upgrade path on CPU down the road with AM5, my very old Intel gaming rig had to go (old backup pc now).

I should be on my new PC by this weekend :).

:)
 
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Well, yeh the 7800x3d is a specific use case for gaming.

Though even then, I'd rather take the ~7% loss in gaming, but have nearly 30% more grunt on average elsewhere for (what will likely end up after launch) similar money.
Well, that's your personal use case. I'd rather have the fastest gaming CPU and a much more future-proof platform, since I have zero use for all those slow cores (and would likely just disable them in the BIOS to stop them causing problems during gaming, as they sometimes do). The 3D vcache CPUs also happen to wipe the floor with any of Intel's offerings in some of the games I'm most interested in, so it's an easy decision in my case. The average uptick of ~9% is less important than the specifics for me.

So yeah, as always people should buy what's best for them, rather than trying to decide upon a definitive "winner" that suits all needs.
 
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I had the same issue ,ie needed a new gaming rig. I was going to wait for 14th gen, but wanted a better upgrade on path on CPU plus I hate water cooling, so decided to go with AM5 and 7800X3D since all I do is browse and game now in my old age, nice to have a decent upgrade path on CPU down the road with AM5, my very old Intel gaming rig had to go (old backup pc now).

I should be on my new PC by this weekend :).

:)

I think if you exclusively game, that is the way to go.

I use my PC for a number of other things though beyond gaming, so just gaming performance isn't the number one factor when looking for a cpu/platform
 
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