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Of course it is, because Canada is absolutely enormous. They have a population of around half ours, too, so on a per capita basis using your figures we have 'only' 3 times more illegal immigrants which given how appealing we are to African migrants who haven't a hope in hells chance of crossing the Atlantic that's not actually that bad on our part, surely?
2,000 migrants tried to enter channel tunnel last night!
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Of course it is, because Canada is absolutely enormous. They have a population of around half ours, too, so on a per capita basis using your figures we have 'only' 3 times more illegal immigrants which given how appealing we are to African migrants who haven't a hope in hells chance of crossing the Atlantic that's not actually that bad on our part, surely?
It'll give Geldof something to moan about at least.
Now you're just being ridiculous, at no point have I said anything about ruling anyone, I for one certainly would have no interest in seeing the rebirth of the British empire.
For one if what we were offering was building infrastructure, hospitals and schools etc and offering to educate people I'm pretty sure a lot of places would gladly welcome us in with open arms, yes in certain cases creating the opportunity where the people of a country could have a democracy but that democracy should be free and independent and not some vassal of the United Nations.
You fail to understand that its all about money and nothing else.
The world does not run on magic fairy dust its all about money.
Overseas aid is about gaining huge contracts and exploitation. Overseas wars are about feeding the military manufactures.
Vaccinations in the 3rd world are about feeding the pharmaceutical companies.
Its corrupt as hell and sod all we can do about it.
A little like our government!
Read this for a laugh....
https://www.freemovement.org.uk/con...ments-on-immigration-the-eu-and-human-rights/
Really Dave!
if you wanted to fund pharmaceutical companies surely you wouldn't instigate vaccination programs?
the small pox vaccination program for instance meant the cost of wiping the disease from the face of the earth, was less than the yearly cost of treating it.
So I'm travelling to work on outdated and crowded trains but you want our taxes to go to building hospitals and infrastructure that'll probably end up in the hands of ISIS. Ok then.
<tinfoil> But it was also far less than creating it in the first place </tinfoil>
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A new low.
Itchy I stated in one of my earlier posts that we are in this mess because of greed so I don't fail to understand at all.
All I'm saying is that to actually deal with issues like mass illegal immigration we need to drastically change how we go about things. Doing things like deporting captured illegals entering the UK or detaining them is going to do nothing to solve the problem and just puts a further strain on us.
I also stated that it will likely never happen, however it should... I just strongly feel the way out of this mess is by actually, really helping these problem countries, not just by throwing money at them which mostly gets squirreled away by the corrupt officials etc but by implementing real and tangible aid.
All I'm saying is that to actually deal with issues like mass illegal immigration we need to drastically change how we go about things. Doing things like deporting captured illegals entering the UK or detaining them is going to do nothing to solve the problem and just puts a further strain on us.
I also stated that it will likely never happen, however it should... I just strongly feel the way out of this mess is by actually, really helping these problem countries, not just by throwing money at them which mostly gets squirreled away by the corrupt officials etc but by implementing real and tangible aid.
Its all part of the plan folks after a little digging I found this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18519395
Notice his employment record quote
"Mr Sutherland, who is non-executive chairman of Goldman Sachs International and a former chairman of oil giant BP, heads the Global Forum on Migration and Development , which brings together representatives of 160 nations to share policy ideas. "
See the pattern, no tinfoil required as we up **** creek without a paddle.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18519395
Notice his employment record quote
"Mr Sutherland, who is non-executive chairman of Goldman Sachs International and a former chairman of oil giant BP, heads the Global Forum on Migration and Development , which brings together representatives of 160 nations to share policy ideas. "
See the pattern, no tinfoil required as we up **** creek without a paddle.
how do you expect to help them? with what monies?
it's all well and good saying go build roads, hospitals and schools.
we could do the same thing in this country and maybe we could have controlled immigration without destroying everything for our future generations.
We are not the world police nor it's caretakers, we can't save everyone
maybe china could help them instead of exploiting the natural resources of africa
it's all well and good saying go build roads, hospitals and schools.
we could do the same thing in this country and maybe we could have controlled immigration without destroying everything for our future generations.
We are not the world police nor it's caretakers, we can't save everyone
maybe china could help them instead of exploiting the natural resources of africa
Its all part of the plan folks after a little digging I found this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18519395
Notice his employment record quote
"Mr Sutherland, who is non-executive chairman of Goldman Sachs International and a former chairman of oil giant BP, heads the Global Forum on Migration and Development , which brings together representatives of 160 nations to share policy ideas. "
See the pattern, no tinfoil required as we up **** creek without a paddle.
Shock as those qualified and able to hold international positions have experience working in top jobs elsewhere
Lets face it, the head of a representative organisation of 160 nations isn't going to be a former supermarket till operator from Rotherham, is he?
Again as I've already said in a previous post that this building of infrastructure could be paid for by way of a fair exchange for access to their countries natural resources for a period of time. Then paying them directly after works are completed which in turn would boost their economies. Lets face it the only reason why they turn to shoddy arrangements with the likes of china is because they are desperate.
[TW]Fox;28380803 said:Shock as those qualified and able to hold international positions have experience working in top jobs elsewhere
Lets face it, the head of a representative organisation of 160 nations isn't going to be a former supermarket till operator from Rotherham, is he?
Lol funny.
No its just when I see that company name Goldman Sachs sends shivers down my spine.
The same company that fiddled the books for Greece to enter the EU.
They are a vile company with no regard for people whatsoever.
Bingo got it!!
Get Greece in the EU by fiddling books, cause a uprising on the north African continent. Sell the UK as free for all golden paved streets and watch them come.
Oh and lets nearly send Greece into bankruptcy in the process, just to make sure they don't stop too many migrants. Eye off the ball so to say.
You got to admire the skill, deception and lengths they we they go to in achieving there own agenda.
you've got it backwards though they did those things because they were hired to do those things not because they had an agenda of their own.
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Well, for me, its more a question of, I have the opportunity to live and work in Canada with its associated quality of life. OR..I could remain and live and work here. So, to answer the question, no..its not actually "that bad" but its worse than the option I have available to me of living in Canada
Which all makes it a no-brainer. For me at least
sadly there is no such thing as a fair exchange.
They likely wouldn't be interested unless they get to line their pockets with the profits.
the problem with africa is corruption is widespread and then we have countries ran by racists like mugabe who couldn't care less about the people
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China has been building a lot of infrastructure in Africa but only because they want to secure the resources and with the Chinese quality of life on the up I'd imagine they'd want to secure a cheap workforce.
Sadly even if your utopian view did come true it would result in the collapse of the world economies as we would no longer have a large enough difference in costs to be able to grow produce / build products at a price that is sustainable.
With the current system third world countries catching up with us is a bad thing as it can only lead to our quality life of going down to average out with others going up. I can't see anyone signing up for that.
Yup. Working in oil I know quite a few geologists and we have plants over in Africa so have a load of African colleagues. They've said the same. We build a plant or facility and we HAVE to employ a certain percentage of 'local content' whether it be materials or people.
It's not unusual to find group of Chinese workers in areas that they shouldn't be. For example a client of mine had the exclusive rights to develop and drill in an area of Nigeria. When the first team got there to start setting up one of the on-shore drilling rigs the area was already overrun with armed Chinese who proceeded to fire warning shots at them.
When they complained to the government the attitude was basically 'shrug'.
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