Poll: 2008 Brazilian GP - Race 18/18

Your prediction(s)?

  • Hamilton wins the race

    Votes: 68 24.0%
  • Massa wins the race

    Votes: 107 37.8%
  • Hamilton gets a puncture and loses everything

    Votes: 13 4.6%
  • Hamilton gets owned by the FIA's EMP weapon like last year and loses everything

    Votes: 40 14.1%
  • Hamilton is too hot headed at the start and loses everything

    Votes: 35 12.4%
  • Massa takes the refuelling rig with him again and loses everything

    Votes: 12 4.2%
  • Alonso takes out Hamilton and Hamilton loses everything

    Votes: 25 8.8%
  • Kimi takes out Hamilton and Hamilton loses everything

    Votes: 8 2.8%
  • Wet or partially wet race

    Votes: 116 41.0%
  • Dry race

    Votes: 14 4.9%
  • Some sort of penalty given to Hamilton

    Votes: 36 12.7%
  • Some sort of penalty given to Massa

    Votes: 5 1.8%

  • Total voters
    283
Status
Not open for further replies.
I have to say... all due respect to the champ... he drove much better in his first season then he did this season.

He was much more consistent last year and didnt score in only 2 races compared to this years 4 races.
Furthermore, he only won 4 races last year. Yet he ended up with more points last year than this year (where he won 5 races).

For the sake of argument assume he did win Spa. His points tally would still be lower compared to last year.

He had no pressure last year until about the last 3 or 4 races ;)

Pressure is a huge factor in F1.

(I'm sure you already know this but just pointing it out anyway :))
 
He had no pressure last year until about the last 3 or 4 races ;)

Pressure is a huge factor in F1.

(I'm sure you already know this but just pointing it out anyway :))

True, but he had a team mate who was taking valuable points away from him.

This year he didnt even need to think about his team mate, and really was only racing 2 other drivers on the grid for the championship.
 
Lol at someone thinging Hamilton is the best driver in the wet.

Alonso, Vettel and Barrichello are better wet weather drivers imo.

Hamilton drove in the same car as Alonso last year and was generally faster and scored more points in the wet than Alonso.

Barrichello certainly isnt in the same league as Hamilton. When he was in the best car in F1, he did nothing in the wet, that made me think, "wow". Hamilton made me think that, in many wet races, as he was fastest. Last year, in his first season, him winning races on wet tracks was definitely an eye-opener.

I cant comment on Vettel, but I still believe that Hamilton would be faster in the wet. In the future, we will find out, as they both have many years of racing ahead of them.
 
I've said it before, but I'll say it again - you lot on here are easily pleased. The last two seasons, for all the intrigue and off-track events, have not been vintage F1. And anyone who thinks they have been ought to look at that thread Spie made the other day with the video of Dijon '79 in it. F1 is infintely poorer than it was.

I've read that thread.

I wasnt into F1 at that time, as it was before my time, but Overlag has stated that not all races were like that. In fact that was the exception rather than the rule.

Another thing is that people have a habit of looking at the past with rose-tinted specs. This happens in all areas of life - 'it were better when I was a lad...'
 

You claimed that it wasn't exciting because it was obvious at the time that Hamilton would overtake Glock. You only have to go back through the thread and read all the posts by people thinking Hamilton had blown it to realise this was not the case.

It's easy enough looking at it now, sector times in hand, and saying that the overtake was inevitable but that's not the point.
 
You claimed that it wasn't exciting because it was obvious at the time that Hamilton would overtake Glock. You only have to go back through the thread and read all the posts by people thinking Hamilton had blown it to realise this was not the case.

It's easy enough looking at it now, sector times in hand, and saying that the overtake was inevitable but that's not the point.

yup, and he didnt even watch it. so he has no clue what was going on (at the time).
 
True, but he had a team mate who was taking valuable points away from him.

This year he didnt even need to think about his team mate, and really was only racing 2 other drivers on the grid for the championship.

This year he was the No 1 driver for the "2nd biggest" team in F1. Instant pressure ;)

I think he will be very composed next year. As long as he has a good car like the second half of this year.
 
This year he was the No 1 driver for the "2nd biggest" team in F1. Instant pressure ;)

Leading the championship in your debut year >>> Leading the championship in your 2nd year.

He will undoubtedly have pressure from needing to perform better in his 2nd year, but even taking that into consideration is probably not as much as the pressure in his first season and expecting to win the championship.
 
Next season he has the added pressure of being the defending WDC, also the new cars will be a completley different beast to 2008 cars which will add more pressure.

I hope now that he has his 1st WDC under his belt he will be a little less hot-heaaded.
 
This year he was the No 1 driver for the "2nd biggest" team in F1. Instant pressure ;)

I think he will be very composed next year. As long as he has a good car like the second half of this year.
Also the scandals and in-fighting at McLaren would have made it a difficult place to work - remember him and Alonso pretty much destroyed what we thought before they arrived was a harmonise team...

Definitely Hamilton was better last year than this year, or maybe more consistent - some could say that the driving mentality was different - he was just out to prove he was the fastest last year (at whatever cost) - this year he needed to prove he was the best...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
he was just out to prove he was the fastest last year (at whatever cost) - this year he needed to prove he was the best...


I preferred Hamilton last year. I felt he was more consistent and went toe-to-toe with Alonso.

This year, he was ragged. And after Alonso's strong showing in the final third of the season, in the 3rd best car, scoring more points than anybody else, Hamilton's peformance didnt look too great.
 
A good article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7711153.stm

What really interested me was, ...

We deliberately had a strategy of not doing much to this year's car, investing all our resources in next year," he said.

"He [Brawn] has invested all this year making sure we have the best possible year next year," said Fry.

"We've really gone for it inside the company in terms of deploying resources for next year.

"Motivation in the team has been huge because they can see what's happening for next year. I'm sure you are going to see us take a big step forward next year."

It would appear that most of Honda's resources have been directed to 2009. I doubt that any other team has invested so much into 2009. And bearing that in mind, I'm actually thinking that maybe, just maybe, Honda could compete for podiums next year. SHOCK HORROR!

If that happens, it would be unprecedented, as I dont remember a back-of-the-grid team to ever move forward so significantly, from one season to the next.

The test times in January/February should be very very interesting.
 
A good article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7711153.stm

What really interested me was, ...



It would appear that most of Honda's resources have been directed to 2009. I doubt that any other team has invested so much into 2009. And bearing that in mind, I'm actually thinking that maybe, just maybe, Honda could compete for podiums next year. SHOCK HORROR!

If that happens, it would be unprecedented, as I dont remember a back-of-the-grid team to ever move forward so significantly, from one season to the next.

The test times in January/February should be very very interesting.
problem is with that stratagy is that they (and BMW) are developing 2009s car from a car they stopped working on in lets say june 2008?

Ferrari, Mclaren, Renault, will be working from a November 2008 spec car. If ya catch my drift? (i know it aint that simple but...)

Of coarse next season is dif cos the cars are so different but i still think the top 4 will be
1: Ferrari
2: Mclaren
2: Alonso (oops, sorry Renault)
4: BMW.


BMW and Honda may move up, but 1 maybe 2 slots for Honda max...


(and yes, there are 2 2nds....)
 
Last edited:
Of coarse next season is dif cos the cars are so different but i still think the top 4 will be
1: Ferrari
2: Mclaren
2: Alonso (oops, sorry Renault)
4: BMW.

I'd go along with that. The only thing that could throw a surprise is the fact that there are so many changes to the regs. The last time this happened (as was pointed out by someone earlier in this thread), Williams moved from 1st to 3rd. So it wouldnt be unprecedented for there to be a surprise.

I'm hoping though (based on the last third of 2008), that Alonso might be able to mount a WDC challenge, so we have a 4-way battle.

I enjoy the battles between Hamilton and Alonso, because you know that there is a lot more to it than just beating eachother on the track -they have a history and genuine bad feeling towards one another.
 
A good article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7711153.stm

What really interested me was, ...



It would appear that most of Honda's resources have been directed to 2009. I doubt that any other team has invested so much into 2009. And bearing that in mind, I'm actually thinking that maybe, just maybe, Honda could compete for podiums next year. SHOCK HORROR!

If that happens, it would be unprecedented, as I dont remember a back-of-the-grid team to ever move forward so significantly, from one season to the next.

The test times in January/February should be very very interesting.

Thats old news isn't it..? I don't think they made it half way into the season before stopping major development, although this fell on deaf ears on here and Button kept getting slated for doing nothing when it was clear they won't be going anywhere anyway :) Did you hear any moaning from the drivers? Nope.
 
If that happens, it would be unprecedented, as I dont remember a back-of-the-grid team to ever move forward so significantly, from one season to the next.

I wouldn't have said unprecedented. Williams moved forward very quickly from '78 to '79 - 16 points to 75. BAR went from no points in '99 to finishing 5th in the championship the next year.
 
I preferred Hamilton last year. I felt he was more consistent and went toe-to-toe with Alonso.

This year, he was ragged. And after Alonso's strong showing in the final third of the season, in the 3rd best car, scoring more points than anybody else, Hamilton's peformance didnt look too great.

I think he[LH] has a lot more to offer next year. He has a little more experience behind him. The expectation of the general public [well most of] has been lifted off of his shoulders a bit. Now the only thing he has to prove is that he is as good as RD and LH believe he is :)

As far as next years predictions are concerned for the Constuctors championship , you may as well pick numbers from a hat. To many changes to just assume that because a team was good last year it will be the same this year.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom