2008 Canadian Grand Prix - Race 7/18

Top teams have a habit of not finishing every race with both cars.

Sorry to do this Acid, but....

2004. Schumacher finished out of the points twice all year. Barrichello finished out of the points twice all year. They managed this on different weekends.

1988. Senna finished out of the points three times, Prost twice. They did manage to coincide on that glorious day at Monza*, mind.

You're right though - on the whole, you usually end up with one of your drivers not getting quite as many points finishes as the other. Just figured I should be able to name at least a couple of examples countering it!

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Which I have taped, and sometimes watch solely for the pleasure of hearing Murray's commentary on the final corner, final lap.

"Listen to the crowd!.....Ferrari wins! Ferrari second!" :D
 
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Just realised... even if Hamilton didn't make the mistake then there is a good chance that Rosberg would have rear ended Hamilton anyway. So either way it looks like fate was not voting for Hamilton today.
 
Just realised... even if Hamilton didn't make the mistake then there is a good chance that Rosberg would have rear ended Hamilton anyway. So either way it looks like fate was not voting for Hamilton today.

I don't think Rosberg would have hurt Hamilton's car. He got him on the rear wheel rather than the diffuser/rear wing mount/gearbox, and he wasn't going quick enough to puncture Hamilton's tyre.

That said, if Hamilton wasn't resting on the brake then he might have pushed him into Kimi or Kubica....broken wings aplenty!
 
Agreed - lets all go on a witch hunt after Rosberg for what happened to Hamilton - no question of it :rolleyes:

Perhaps the person who looks after the lights enjoys Red Dwarf and forgot to change the bulb?!?

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Perhaps the person who looks after the lights enjoys Red Dwarf and forgot to change the bulb?!?

ps3ud0 :cool:

:D

RIMMER: Step up to Red Alert.
KRYTEN: Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb.

That was my sig quote on several forums for years....
 
I don't think Rosberg would have hurt Hamilton's car. He got him on the rear wheel rather than the diffuser/rear wing mount/gearbox, and he wasn't going quick enough to puncture Hamilton's tyre.

That said, if Hamilton wasn't resting on the brake then he might have pushed him into Kimi or Kubica....broken wings aplenty!

But you have to remember if Hamilton hadn't crashed, his car would have been a good 8ft behind where it was and rosberg would have hit it at a fair whack.
 
Can someone answer this for me please...

Considering the pit lane speed, didnt Hamilton/Rosberg have enought time/tarmac to stop without causing an incident if they were actually paying attention? Just amazed what happened and the relative speeds they were doing when they hit each other - its not like F1 cars have poor brakes...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
But you have to remember if Hamilton hadn't crashed, his car would have been a good 8ft behind where it was and rosberg would have hit it at a fair whack.

I don't think he'd have parked quite that far behind. Maybe 4ft. And even then, Rosberg was slowed way down, he just had his wheels completely locked thanks to the generally crappy conditions of pit lane surfaces.

Look at the collisions. Hamilton's car pretty much jumped into the air when he walloped Kimi. Rosberg just tagged his wing off.
 
Can someone answer this for me please...

Considering the pit lane speed, didnt Hamilton/Rosberg have enought time/tarmac to stop without causing an incident if they were actually paying attention? Just amazed what happened and the relative speeds they were doing when they hit each other - its not like F1 cars have poor brakes...

ps3ud0 :cool:

they still doing 80kmph iirc
 
Can someone answer this for me please...

Considering the pit lane speed, didnt Hamilton/Rosberg have enought time/tarmac to stop without causing an incident if they were actually paying attention? Just amazed what happened and the relative speeds they were doing when they hit each other - its not like F1 cars have poor brakes...

ps3ud0 :cool:

At the end of the day, you can have all the brakes in the world - you're limited by the four little contact patches on the tyres. And the surface of the pit lane is generally not all that clean compared to the actual track - I'm not surprised that Hamilton and Rosberg slid straight to the scene of the accident.

Look at that wonderful DC crash in Adelaide in '95. Coming into the pits, turns right while on the brakes, car slides straight into the wall. The pit lane has a habit of making F1 drivers look a bit silly.
 
Coulthard in OZ sometime in the last century anyone. edit ... beaten damn

If Kubica gets a decent Motor he'll be the next Schumi
 
You really think he'll get a penalty? The sheer amount of potential outrage from certain quarters of the racing world ought to make that unlikely, surely.
 
You really think he'll get a penalty? The sheer amount of potential outrage from certain quarters of the racing world ought to make that unlikely, surely.

If that was someone like Piquet, crashing into Hamilton, it wouldn't be acceptable. 2 drivers stopped at the line, then Hamilton came along and didn't see the light, that is hardly an excuse! If you go through a red light and get pulled over, you'd have no chance of saying, oh i didn't see the light! If this was a racing crash then obviously no penalty, but this imo was not a racing crash.
 
You really think he'll get a penalty? The sheer amount of potential outrage from certain quarters of the racing world ought to make that unlikely, surely.

He did ruin Kimi's race as well as his own, perhaps even rosbergs too. I'm in the opinion that rosberg was simply following hamilton. Kimi did well to keep his cool, and you gotta think robert was having a little laugh to himself inside his helmet.
As for penalty... well he caused an avoidable accident so yes.. he should get one. If someone ran in the back of you at the lights, do you think they should get off with it scott free?
 
As for penalty... well he caused an avoidable accident so yes.. he should get one. If someone ran in the back of you at the lights, do you think they should get off with it scott free?

I'd say he should get a penalty, drop 10 places on the next race's grid.
 
Oh i forgot to add.. I laughed so hard when massa went up the inside of .. was it Hekki and Rubens?.. whoever... on the inside of the hairpin.. that was just class.. and he almost did it again with the toyota's!! what a lucky recovery drive. Congrats to Robert, Nick, and David for an excellent race, well deserved for all three.
 
I'd say he should get a penalty, drop 10 places on the next race's grid.

I agree, oh and talking of grid drops.. I hope kimi's gearbox didnt suffer from that shunt, else he might end up taking a change if its not due. Perhaps if that does happen the FIA will let him off without the penalty? would be fair imo.
 
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