2022 mini-budget discussion

CapitalOne · 30 Sep 2022 at 17:55

Roar87 said:
Probably get quite difficult to get anything done with the absolute state of that 2019 Parliament, which included a biased Speaker. The left keep pushing people into corners and are continually surprised by the outcome.

It was difficult to pass a **** deal is what you mean. It was working perfectly.

Chris Wilson · 30 Sep 2022 at 17:58

spaggyboy said:
But only Boris lied directly to the Queen's face. I would have thought that a so-called patriot would have found this abominable. Question, does this mean Boris ranks higher than the Queen in your eyes?

As he's not dead, well yes

spaggyboy · 30 Sep 2022 at 18:02

Chris Wilson said:
As he's not dead, well yes

Admit it. He did before she died too. He must have done. How else can a supposed 'patriot' so blithely dismiss her chief minister disrespecting her (and probably committing treason too!) by lying to her face. You're no patriot

In fact the idea of a one party state with Boris as Supreme Leader is the dream right?

Chris Wilson · 30 Sep 2022 at 18:03

Murphy said:
Putting aside that that's nothing more than a default bias i wonder if you'd say the same if we changed the name from Boris to Ed Miliband. How about if we went back in time to the 2010 GE, would you still be saying we should've kept Brown as PM because we should be careful what they wish for in wanting to get rid of Brown?

Or how about we change the circumstances to when we were still members of the EU, would you still be saying we should be careful what people wish for in wanting to leave the EU?

People should ALWAYS be careful of what they wish for. Sometimes the change is palatable, sometimes it is not. In the case of many who wished to see the back of Boris, this change is not at all palatable.

Chris Wilson · 30 Sep 2022 at 18:05

spaggyboy said:
Admit it. He did before she died too. In fact the idea of a one party state with Boris as Supreme Leader is the dream right?

No dream of mine, Boris is far too Liberal. Any more words you'd like to try and put in my mouth?

chroniclard · 30 Sep 2022 at 18:06

Boris has no relevance anymore. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

spaggyboy · 30 Sep 2022 at 18:07

Chris Wilson said:
No dream of mine, Boris is far too Liberal. Any more words you'd like to try and put in my mouth?

So the one party state bit is fine, just with a Supreme Leader that is far more authoritarian?

I think there's a word for that...

Murphy · 30 Sep 2022 at 18:13

Chris Wilson said:
People should ALWAYS be careful of what they wish for. Sometimes the change is palatable, sometimes it is not. In the case of many who wished to see the back of Boris, this change is not at all palatable.

Way to not address a single point i raised. :rolleyes:

Also what on earth makes you think that this change is not at all palatable for 'many' who wished to see the back of Boris? :confused:

adidan · 30 Sep 2022 at 18:15

Dirk Diggler said:
In the absence of proof this is just your feelings.

I think if suspicions arise they should be investigated. It's kind of how policing works.

GordyR · 30 Sep 2022 at 18:16

Murphy said:
Way to not address a single point i raised.

Also what on earth makes you think that this change is not at all palatable for 'many' who wished to see the back of Boris?

Exactly, this is fantastic.

Replacing Boris with Truss has caused the Tory mask to slip and the general public is completely rejecting them finally.

It's precisely for this reason that people like Chris are so rattled.

CapitalOne · 30 Sep 2022 at 18:17

GordyR said:
Exactly, this is fantastic.

Replacing Boris with Truss has caused the Tory mask to slip and the general public is completely rejecting them finally.

It's precisely for this reason that people like Chris are so rattled.

"Scared of change"

Uther · 30 Sep 2022 at 18:19

CapitalOne said:
"Scared of change"

They're going to get a Labour government for the rest of their lives, no wonder they're a bit upset.

StriderX · 30 Sep 2022 at 18:23

Uther said:
They're going to get a Labour government for the rest of their lives, no wonder they're a bit upset.

If the Tories attack the NHS all it will do is deify Starmer as Atlee's successor when he saves it.

CapitalOne · 30 Sep 2022 at 18:42

What I find most annoying, and I’m definitely in the realms of CapitalOne land here is the fear that you won’t do well unless the Tories are in power.

You’ll do well regardless of government if you are genuinely good at what you do.

It’s that attitude that is really at odds with what a lot of Tories would believe and yet we see it here. They aren’t scared that any other government would make things worse in general, they are scared they would make things worse for them. I’m sure there is a snappy word to describe that attitude but i’ll just leave it at how borderline lucky to be getting away with it are you to be scared like that?

sigma · 30 Sep 2022 at 19:46

spaggyboy said:
So the one party state bit is fine, just with a Supreme Leader that is far more authoritarian?

I think there's a word for that...

Of course. You're talking to a religious extremist, what else do you expect.

sigma · 30 Sep 2022 at 19:49

GordyR said:
Exactly, this is fantastic.

Replacing Boris with Truss has caused the Tory mask to slip and the general public is completely rejecting them finally.

It's precisely for this reason that people like Chris are so rattled.

Chris-Rees-Mogg-Putin-Binladen-Wilson isn't rattled at all from what I can see?

Uther · 30 Sep 2022 at 19:55

sigma said:
Chris-Rees-Mogg-Putin-Binladen-Wilson isn't rattled at all from what I can see?

I guess he'sone of those types of people that would only get upset when something directly impacts them, and doesn't give a **** when it's happening to someone else.

GordyR · 30 Sep 2022 at 20:07

sigma said:
Chris-Rees-Mogg-Putin-Binladen-Wilson isn't rattled at all from what I can see?

Oh but he is…

It’s why he keeps repeating his “See, you shouldn’t have ousted Boris” line, ad nauseam, completely oblivious to that fact that no one actually regrets it.

It’s transparent as anything.

n111ck · 30 Sep 2022 at 20:49

I see the dollar parity by the end of the year prediction has already been scrapped lol.. pathetic hysteria as expected.

LabR@t · 30 Sep 2022 at 20:53

Media Circus just ignore it