2022 mini-budget discussion

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Thanks for the info re betting on currency values, fascinating stuff, I had a neighbour who seemed to make a lot of money with stocks and shares and I always had a desire to learn more about the world of finance, but it's never happened. I may take the time to research it some more, it sounds like I should educate myself on this as I freely admit it's a black art to me. But they do say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, so I won't be mortgaging the house to have a dabble :)

And herein lies one of the issues with crowing over the "SC crowd" not making a fortune off shorting the pound.

If you want to make big money trading (FX or stocks) you need to be willing to risk big money to do so. The adage that you should never trade what you can't afford to lose is a cliché for a reason.

So even if the more financially literate forum members could predict that the pound would tank following the budget announcement, it's a whole other thing to have available capital and be prepared to potentially lose it all.

Because what might not have been quite so obvious was the BoE’s emergency QE announcement, which allowed the £ to recover. If you had open positions when it swung back (depending on your entry point) you big gains could suddenly become big loses.

And while @Dirk Diggler's example makes it sound simple, it's not quite that straightforward for retail "investors". There are other costs associated with spread betting, and wider spreads on FX trading platforms, which means you need the price movements to be bigger than the "real" price movements before you make a profit. There's a reason ~75% of retail spread betters make a loss.
 

He's essentially.calling you a bit thick...

You do realise that the "media circus" comment you made is a little dumb.

The main reason that the £ didn't go lower is because the markets seen the better fiscally educated people of the BoE pumped £65B into the economy to save pension funds which cooled thing down a bit.

If they hadn't done that, it may have been a different matter.
 
He's essentially.calling you a bit thick...

You do realise that the "media circus" comment you made is a little dumb.

The main reason that the £ didn't go lower is because the markets seen the better fiscally educated people of the BoE pumped £65B into the economy to save pension funds which cooled thing down a bit.

If they hadn't done that, it may have been a different matter.
I do read the news but a lot of it bs and exaggerated nonsense.
 

Post and run huh?.... You do have your own thoughts to share as to why it stopped tanking and recovered?

Note, I haven't said it hasn't recovered but a big reason for that caused us, as a country, to ***** £65B which may not have been necessary if the mini budget was more responsible in the eyes of World markets.

Do you think the mini budget was a resounding success?
 
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I see the dollar parity by the end of the year prediction has already been scrapped lol.. pathetic hysteria as expected.
That's what happens when the Bank of England do £65 billion worth of emergency QE (they have said this is only buying us time) and the government are forced into allowing the OBR to do an economic forecast on the effects of their plans.

I don't understand how people think it's hysteria when it's only emergency intervention in the market that has temporarily saved us. If they did nothing we would have quickly found out that being concerned was justified.
 
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That's what happens when the Bank of England do £65 billion worth of emergency QE (they have said this is only buying us time) and the government are forced into allowing the OBR to do an economic forecast of their plans.

I don't understand how people think it's hysteria when it's only emergency intervention in the market that has temporarily saved us. If they did nothing we would have quickly found out that being concerned was justified.
Look at the cost of government borrowing.

The cost of mortgages.

All just lefty hsyteria!!!111!1!1!!!

I appreciate the media can be ****s but these are things you cannot deny. Well, I suppose you can ignore them if you are ignorant or if they don't affect you.
 
Post and run huh?.... You do have your own thoughts to share as to why it stopped tanking and recovered?

Note, I haven't said it hasn't recovered but a big reason for that caused us, as a country, to ***** £65B which may not have been necessary if the mini budget was more responsible in the eyes of World markets.

Do you think the mini budget was a resounding success?
It’s all covered in the article which is why I posted it.

As I said this morning some of you are clearly disappointed that the pound recovered.
 
That's what happens when the Bank of England do £65 billion worth of emergency QE (they have said this is only buying us time) and the government are forced into allowing the OBR to do an economic forecast on the effects of their plans.

I don't understand how people think it's hysteria when it's only emergency intervention in the market that has temporarily saved us. If they did nothing we would have quickly found out that being concerned was justified.
Well the Japanese spent 1.5 trillion yen doing the same thing
 
Look at the cost of government borrowing.

The cost of mortgages.

All just lefty hsyteria!!!111!1!1!!!

I appreciate the media can be ****s but these are things you cannot deny. Well, I suppose you can ignore them if you are ignorant or if they don't affect you.
House prices still going up 9.5% yoy, massive crash
 
Well the Japanese spent 1.5 trillion yen doing the same thing
That's only £9 billion, but was that as a result of reckless borrowing (with no scrutiny allowed) to give tax cuts to the wealthiest in the middle of a cost living crisis and a looming recession where inequality is surging and ordinary people are unable to heat and feed themselves?
 
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