2022 mini-budget discussion

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Can't find it now but saw an article yesterday with government sources already admitting their growth targets won't come to fruition this term, and possibly not even until the next of the next Parliament.
 
Greebo said:
And you see that is where you are wasting money. I waited too long to replace our 20 year oil boiler 5 years ago as it always needed some parts every service but finally swapped it for a modern efficient condensing boiler and my oil consumption halved each year. With the rising prices of oil the cost of the new boiler was covered in just 3 years of heating oil. Plus better for the environment.
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This boiler has never been serviced by any outside person, I just put a new jet in it every three years, and clean it out, change the filter and check the fuel pressure. Total maintenance costs about £100. Friends who have bought modern boilers with complex electronic controls have found they are both short lived and parts supplies have been very poor to none existent once they get older.

I have always erred towards electronically simple boilers, washing machines and dryers, as they can usually be cobbled along, whereas those with microprocessor controls and bespoke programmed chips are at the mercy of parts obsolescence and their very complexity increases the chance of failure.

We don't use much oil as I am miserly with the central heating, (and most bother things....) so I am confident the excess ful has been more than balanced by near zero expenditure on the hardware.
 
Robbo said:
You can also like Labour and think their policies are good? Are you not allowed to vote for the most suitable party at the time?

Politics shouldn't be like religion. Mindless support without any thought behind it. I wouldn't expect you to understand that though.
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This seems to be something completely lacking from a lot of people. They support a party not policies and treat everything as an "us vs them" issue. There was a video of someone interviewing kids on an American campus a few years ago and as long as they were told something was a Bernie policy they loved it and if it was Trump it was awful and they did all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify it.

They had just reversed the two candidates policies but they were so incapable of thinking about anything down more complex lines than "thats my guy" that they couldn't possibly entertain the idea that some of the policies from their guy were not great and some from the "enemy" were not so bad.

Its sad and goes some way to explaining why so many people still can't accept that Brexit was a colossal **** up.
 
KillBoY_UK said:
As poor as the Tory's are at the moment I really don't see how Labour as they are will do any better and likely be worse. It's one of those cases where if they do win the next GE I hope I'm wrong
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They cant possibly be worse. A literal tub of lard would have done better than the Tories these past 12 years. :cry:
 
Absolutely boggles the mind that a party is campaigning on more privatisation, and less financial regulation.

True blue tory drones should think a bit about who's pulling the strings on this government.
 
n111ck said:
People aren't currently supporting Labour because they think they are good but because the media is telling them the Tories are bad
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You've got this the wrong way around.

Other people are supporting Labout because they're currently the best option, you're not because you vote on feelings and not logic or an educated understanding of the current situation.
 
wesimmo said:
You've got this the wrong way around.

Other people are supporting Labout because they're currently the best option, you're not because you vote on feelings and not logic or an educated understanding of the current situation.
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What's your 'educated understanding of the situation' based on? What Labour policies do you support to reverse the current economic situation?
 
Oh dear - M-People, then a new enemy......the anti growth coallition, now they are scum.

There was nothing in there.

The Beth Rigby interview is much better.
 
wesimmo said:
You've got this the wrong way around.

Other people are supporting Labout because they're currently the best option, you're not because you vote on feelings and not logic or an educated understanding of the current situation.
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Best is stretching things a bit :rolleyes:
 
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"Anti-Growth Coalition" lol, cant be more obvious they came up with a new way of trying to make other poeple the bad guys.
 
Chris Wilson said:
This boiler has never been serviced by any outside person, I just put a new jet in it every three years, and clean it out, change the filter and check the fuel pressure. Total maintenance costs about £100. Friends who have bought modern boilers with complex electronic controls have found they are both short lived and parts supplies have been very poor to none existent once they get older.

I have always erred towards electronically simple boilers, washing machines and dryers, as they can usually be cobbled along, whereas those with microprocessor controls and bespoke programmed chips are at the mercy of parts obsolescence and their very complexity increases the chance of failure.

We don't use much oil as I am miserly with the central heating, (and most bother things....) so I am confident the excess ful has been more than balanced by near zero expenditure on the hardware.
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Fair enough on modern boilers have more things which can go wrong but we were using 3,000l of oil per annum with the old boiler (does the hot water as well as radiators) and since getting the new boiler we are only using 1,200l per annum. At the old prices that wasnt a massive saving but now its £1500 per annum. That will pay for an awful of of repairs to the microprocessor controls each year ;) In fact if parts become a struggle I can just buy a new boiler every 2 years and be no worse off.
 
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Greebo said:
Fair enough on modern boilers have more things which can go wrong but we were using 3,000l of oil per annum with the old boiler (does the hot water as well as radiators) and since getting the new boiler we are only using 1,200l per annum. At the old prices that wasnt a massive saving but now its £1500 per annum. That will pay for an awful of of repairs to the microprocessor controls each year ;) In fact if parts become a struggle I can just buy a new boiler every 2 years and be no worse off.
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Damn. I need a new boiler!
I have no idea how old ours is! Looks ancient
 
Seems a number of tory backbenchers and even some ministers are against only increasing benefits by average wage, some are predicting if Truss tries to push it through it wont pass.

Also disability benefits are protected by law on inflation so those I think are unlikely to change.
 
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