A pretty meaningless statistic really... If you want to see really high unemployment look at the Conservative governments of the 1980s and 1990s - and that period ended with higher unemployment than it started with too. Followed by a decent decline / reasonably low levels under Blair, with the global financial crisis bringing the numbers back up in 2009, but that was hardly their fault.
but its still a fact which ever way you swing it, ive lived under a few labour governments and they all been the same, taxed to the hilt, though mainly stealth taxes , tories just **** over the everyday workers and give to their rich chums.
I think they've confused fact with opinion.
all your giving me is reasons why, even that article states. While the figures we do have back up the claim
Full Fact said:
everyone is entitled to an opinion, this isnt cancel culture on here you know. i hate both parties anyway
Matter of opinion I guess, but for me I'd take a bunch of stealth taxes to secure some even moderately competent governance and planning for the future and even slightly improved public services.but its still a fact which ever way you swing it, ive lived under a few labour governments and they all been the same, taxed to the hilt, though mainly stealth taxes , tories just **** over the everyday workers and give to their rich chums.
to me the both as bad as one another, early blair yrs were the best for the everyday person, before he cuddled up to big business and the city, not forgetting he was a lying ******* ****
I think someone should get a petition going for an immediate general election. Strike while the irons hot because these people have got to go, 2 years is too long to wait.
2 years really is too long to wait. What they have introduced today needs reversing ASAP, but I wonder is the feeling amongst the general population the same as these forums... imagine if they won.
the main rates generally wernt higher, but there were a sod for stealth taxes, but either way both parties give the everyday person sod all in reality.
Then I give up lol. I’ve never voted in my life and I’m proud of it but I think that may well change at the next election.
I've heard there's actually a bit of a tradition of previous ministers leaving slightly humorous notes for each other... But the Tories certainly destroyed that by using it as the centrepiece of their criticism of Labourand btw remember this,lol
www.google.com
now that was a funny one, i miss the old days, though i aint that old to remember that one,lol
Full Fact said:
lol you have your opinion i have mine
and btw remember this,lol
lol you need to get out moreNo it doesn't, why are you lying? You know what, rather than sit here making yourself look increasingly silly, why don't you actually read the article?
It doesn't say say that it "Backs up the claim" it says that it "backs up the claim for the last two Labour governments" only.
It then goes on to completely debunk your claim, which was again, was this:
And it did so by pointing out the following:
Why did you feel the need to lie?
Why are you talking about opinion when we're dealing with objective facts here? This isn't a matter of opinion. The claim that you made was categorically untrue and that's all there is to it.
Rather than graciously accept that you made a simple mistake, you've instead doubled down and dishonestly represented a quote from the article by purposefully cutting it off mid-sentence.
Cringe-worthy...
Erm yes... What do you think that has to do with anything?
Surely you know about the history of this tradition from outgoing governments?
