***21.9 Ultrawide Thread***

PPI will be more than fine for gaming, especially if you can super sample the game, be that in game or hopefully soon with amd crimson....

PPI is mainly an issue with text stuff though.
 
PPI ultimately affects the sharpness of everything displayed. 2560x1080 isn't too low for Uw, but I'm it's too low for 34" UW, in my experience. I can only give you my own opinion but I've owned and used a large variety of monitors at just about every size/resolution combo and one things for sure is that I'll never willingly go back to a monitor with a PPI as low as 2560x1080 at 34". It's the same as a 1080p 27" screen - too soft for me.
 
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Just got out my measuring tape and it looks like the 34 inch may be too big. The 29 inch screen seems to be a perfect fit for my desk and viewing distance so I will try it first. Anyone think that 29 inch is too small for ultrawide though?

I was just gaming at 75hz and found it to be acceptable so as long as it isn't small in the flesh I should be okay with it.
 
Davanius said:
Just got out my measuring tape and it looks like the 34 inch may be too big. The 29 inch screen seems to be a perfect fit for my desk and viewing distance so I will try it first. Anyone think that 29 inch is too small for ultrawide though?

I was just gaming at 75hz and found it to be acceptable so as long as it isn't small in the flesh I should be okay with it.
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Check out the OP, I have linked display size comparisons.

IMO 29" 21.9 is a nice size, the wideness is perfect for me and whilst I would like another 1-2" for vertical height, it doesn't bother me that much.

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Also, might be handy, 34" 3440x1440 VS 2560x1080 for gaming:

https://hardforum.com/threads/34-21...0-aoc-u3477pqu.1827296/page-2#post-1041126330
 
Nexus18 said:
Check out the OP, I have linked display size comparisons.

IMO 29" 21.9 is a nice size, the wideness is perfect for me and whilst I would like another 1-2" for vertical height, it doesn't bother me that much.

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Also, might be handy, 34" 3440x1440 VS 2560x1080 for gaming:

https://hardforum.com/threads/34-21...0-aoc-u3477pqu.1827296/page-2#post-1041126330
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29" vertical is not enough, currently on 24" 1920x1200 so 29" UW is too much of a drop, in physical size height and in resolution.
 
hornetstinger said:
29" vertical is not enough, currently on 24" 1920x1200 so 29" UW is too much of a drop, in physical size height and in resolution.
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If you're coming from that particular monitor then yes, it probably isn't ideal, worth remembering though that what you lose in height from 16.10 i.e. 1", you gain so much more from the 21.9/extra wideness, which gives a far more immersive/cinematic experience and what vertical res. you lose going from 1200 to 1080, you gain even more horizontally i.e. 1920 to 2560

For myself, I've used multiple displays and 29" 2560x1080 is plenty good enough (I would still take it over any 16.9 27" 1440P screen too) especially for those wanting to experience 21.9 without forking out £600+. It really isn't as bad as what people make it out to be.

34" 1440 would be great but until they are sensibly priced or offer better specs for the current prices, they aren't attractive options in my eyes + the good thing about the 29" 21.9 LG screens is the contrast ratio, it has the highest I've seen for an IPS screen of around 1300:1, still terrible but better than the average 800/1000:1 of most IPS screens, also IPS glow isn't as problematic on the 29" screens as the larger 34+" 21.9 monitors either.

I even ditched my dual monitor setup just to have 1 29" screen for clean desk etc. purposes. If I really wanted, I could have 3 monitors setup (all sitting in the loft as I never got round to selling them) for ultimate productivity/multi-tasking/screen real estate but for my usage, I have no need to, this is the extent of my "multi-tasking"

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Davanius said:
Thanks a lot for the help. I have ordered the 29 inch monitor and should have it by Tuesday I hope.

I will let you know how I get on with it. :)
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No problem :)

Cool, look forward to hearing what you think, if you don't mind the vertical height and 1080 res., then you should love it.
 
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I now have the 29uc88 and have been pretty impressed with it so far. The size is perfect for me. It's like a extra long 24 inch monitor.

I like the build quality and the weight of it make it feel quite solid. Desktop view is good and not too short vertically to cause a problem at all and the added horizontal space is a plus. Playing Gears 4 is exactly how I imagined it would be which a too good. The ultrawide aspect really suits this game.

I am trying to keep in mind that my eyes are used to my last display so it will take time to adjust to the colors seeming a little bit muted but that's due to me adding a lot more color to my older 2730z which is a tn. It feels more natural to look at and play on. I wish I had bought one before now.

A couple of things to mention though. Firstly, there is some back light bleed in all four corners, the top right having the most with some ips glow. So I may try another. And when using the LG icc profile it makes the screen to dark and crushes black detail. Would love your opinion on this Nexus18 if you don't mind.

So overall I really like the 21.9 experience so far, just have to get used to it.:)
 
Glad to hear you like it on the whole :) And yeah it does take a bit of getting use to at first but after a week or so, I imagine that you will find it very hard to go back to 16.9 again.


Regarding calibration etc. unfortunately these 29" models don't get reviewed by any worthwhile sites so you will mostly have to try other peoples settings or/and calibrate by eye to get settings you like, I'm not 100% sure now but settings wise and OSD, it might be similar enough to the other 29" monitors so you can try my settings which are:

- brightness - 10%, personally I wouldn't go any higher than 20% at most (might seem very dull at first but give it a bit of time and it should look great once your eyes adjust not to mention your eyes will thank you in the long run! :p)
- contrast - 66
- gamma 1 preset
- colour temp - custom with RGB left at their default values
- high preset for the response time setting, this introduces some inverse ghosting but overall I find it makes a noticeable enough difference to motion clarity

I don't bother with the icc profile for the same reason you listed i.e. too dark and I also have some issues with icc profiles introducing gradient banding.

You can then try to manually fine tune the settings further via:

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/

The white saturation test is great for adjusting your contrast to the correct level.


And just use some calibration images like this:

http://webtransformer.com/calibrate/Calibration-Composite-No-ICC-Full.jpg

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Cinema/movie preset is quite accurate overall but it was a bit too dark for my liking.


Regarding back light bleed, personally I wouldn't put up with any at all, IPS glow on the other hand is part of IPS but it can be more severe on some panels I find, this is one reason why I use 10% brightness as for me, it pretty much eliminates IPS glow. Supposedly this has improved on both accounts with LG's newer models so that's why I would have gone for the newer/cheaper model I linked earlier on but as per usual, it is entirely up to you.
 
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Has anyone got Metal Gear Phantom Pain working in 3440 x 1440? I've looked at WSGF but the solutions I'm seeing are waaaay over my head, I'd really like to play this game!
 
Thank you very much for your time Nexus18. You have done an amazing job with this thread.:)

I will try those settings for a few days as I noticed that the bleed is greatly reduced at around 20 brightness. The bleed or the glow moves when I swipe it with a soft cloth. Right now it looks a good deal better so I may stick with it. My other monitors also have some bleed on them as well so I may be complaining a bit too much.
 
No problem and thanks :)

If it is bleed (no matter where you view the monitor/corner from, it will always show) then like I said, to me that is a fault, mine has no bleed, just the left side of the monitor is a bit more problematic for IPS glow when viewed from the right side on a black/dark screen.

You could always take a video of the monitor and then take a snapshot of the video to show what the monitor is like without the image being over exposed etc.
 
Really want to go ultrawide soon. I am debating between X34A, the AOC AG352UCG 35" and the Samsung LC34F791WQUXEN 34", These monitors are really expensive I find, Is there anything I should wait for in these price ranges? I can wait a couple of months no problem.
 
Evian said:
Really want to go ultrawide soon. I am debating between X34A, the AOC AG352UCG 35" and the Samsung LC34F791WQUXEN 34", These monitors are really expensive I find, Is there anything I should wait for in these price ranges? I can wait a couple of months no problem.
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The 35" HDR 200hz 21:9 monitor that's due out later this year may see some of these monitors drop in price, but it's too early to tell. You could always try and pick one up second hand, I've seen a couple come up on the MM, or even B-grade through OCUK. I believe you still get the manufacturer's warranty with B-grade, so don't be put off buy the 90 day warranty.

Out of those three you have mentioned, the X34A and AOC are G-Sync, and the Samsung is Freesync, so depending if you have an Nvidia or AMD GPU, that will dictate your choice there. There may be a few others coming to market, but I don't see prices dropping much anytime soon.
 
I wouldn't hold out for any price drops, a lot of monitors are either the same price or even dearer than what they were 3+ years ago :o The only way prices will drop is:

- when/if retailers drop the extra gouging they add on top to cover all the CCR returns, in order for this to happen, it means monitor manufacturers will need to put more resources/money into QC
- the pound value increases substantially, which is unlikely
- most of the monitor market moves forward with new tech such as FALD or QLED/OLED panels
 
I think the best bet is the second-hand/used market... there will be lots of people moving to the newer models, getting rid of their current 21:9 monitors, so worth keeping an eye on the MM and auction sites. Obvious risk with taking a monitor that may be out of warranty, but will be some real bargains to be had there.
 
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