***21.9 Ultrawide Thread***

arc@css said:
How does this monitor fare? Can't tell what refresh rate it has either.

If a monitor has 10bit colour, does it just mean the quality of colours will be richer / more vibrant than an 8bit one?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/iiya...s-widescreen-led-monitor-black-mo-133-iy.html


Edit: I see it has a 24 - 75hz refresh rate. How does that work?
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That monitor is really 8-Bit+FRC . Like all 10bit consumer IPS panels.


Also avoid it, if you want a good one go for this, they can be found for £495-£500 :-

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aoc-...escreen-super-wide-led-monitor-mo-026-ao.html


I have one and it overclocks to 75hz too. The iiyama is basically the same panel but the build quality is cheaper and more plasticy and the stand is poor too.


If you want to go ultra-wide and 3440x1440 at £500 mark and not bothered about 100hz screens and not wanting curved, this is the one to get and I rate it highly. Really pleased with the purchase.
 
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johnnystuff said:
I just wanted to share with you my little experience with a dual AOC U3477PQU setup.
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OR do as I do set the volume on the monitor to zero ;). That pop is not a fault just as you realised the DP audio starting up and creates that pop sometimes, scared hell out of me the first time it happened then realised the second time it came from the speakers not the panel and muted the audio on the monitor and never happened again.:D
 
Purgatory said:
That monitor is really 8-Bit+FRC . Like all 10bit consumer IPS panels.


Also avoid it, if you want a good one go for this, they can be found for £495-£500 :-

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aoc-...escreen-super-wide-led-monitor-mo-026-ao.html


I have one and it overclocks to 75hz too. The iiyama is basically the same panel but the build quality is cheaper and more plasticy and the stand is poor too.


If you want to go ultra-wide and 3440x1440 at £500 mark and not bothered about 100hz screens and not wanting curved, this is the one to get and I rate it highly. Really pleased with the purchase.
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Thanks for the info, Purgatory. :)

On one hand, I really like the idea of a 21:9 monitor, where as on the other I would also like (I think) to try g-sync and get something that definitely can reach north of 60hz. As curved goes, I guess I'm not as bothered - though it would be nice. It seems that as far as combining all of those criteria, we are somewhat limited at the moment by what 21:9 has to offer. I guess it's simply in its infancy when compared to the other types of monitors available.

Does 75hz make a worthwhile difference over 60?

Is Iiyama a budget brand, then?
 
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Hiijinx said:
Why do the Gsyncs cost so much more than Freesync? :(
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Because Freesync is a software implementation built into the DP spec. Gsync is better, as it is actual hardware - that is, there's a chip inside the monitor that regulates the refresh rates.

While this approach is better than the AMD software version, it costs more as a result.
 
Depends on how you look at it, neither one is necessarily "better" than the other, when it comes to the main goal i.e. smoothing out frame dips, removing screen tearing without input lag, they are both pretty much the same as has been shown by badass's and PCM2's posts + reputable fair reviews/comparisons i.e. anandtech.

Main differences come down to freesync monitors having a lot more ports and gsync working with various windowed settings (I imagine AMD will get this implemented at some point)

The reasons why gsync costs more is because:

1. extra hardware required and sold by nvidia
2. demand (A LOT more people with nvidia GPUs than AMD so naturally there is more demand thus prices can be a bit higher)

One of the main reasons nvidia went with the gsync module is because none of their current desktop GPUs on the market have the hardware required to make use of adaptive/free sync.

arc@css said:
Thanks for the info, Purgatory. :)

On one hand, I really like the idea of a 21:9 monitor, where as on the other I would also like (I think) to try g-sync and get something that definitely can reach north of 60hz. As curved goes, I guess I'm not as bothered - though it would be nice. It seems that as far as combining all of those criteria, we are somewhat limited at the moment by what 21:9 has to offer. I guess it's simply in its infancy when compared to the other types of monitors available.

Does 75hz make a worthwhile difference over 60?

Is Iiyama a budget brand, then?
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Somewhat a budget brand but still a very good brand like AOC.

I would probably go with AOC purely for the better build etc. and I believe AOC have better CS too...

And yes 75HZ provides a decent improvement over 60HZ, however, to get the full benefit, you also need to be hitting 75 FPS too.

For not much more money, you could get the acer freesync 34" screen which would definitely be a much better choice if you ever intend on going AMD.
 
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johnnystuff said:
I don't know what you mean since they're basically 3 different technologies but each one has its pros and cons. Specifically VA have a monster contrast ratio, which brings to (supposedly) perfect blacks and.... guess what.... contrasts
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. They became quite "the thing" when people found out that they don't suffer of backligh bleed while the very early samples of these 21:9 IPS panels where honestly embarassing in the regard. Problem is that VA panels come with their own load of issues like slower response time, color banding and the infamous VA cones which basically means that your super duper black screen is black in front of you but goes bloom all around your point of view. Something like this

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OLEDs or similar cannot enter mainstream quick enough i would say. Well after they fix the burnin issue :P Darn pro's and cons. However in regards to the Ultrawide IPS's you are right, early models like the UM65 and the um95 have been notorious for glow and backlight bleed issues. However the 7 and 8 models (etx um57,um67, um68,uc88 and so on) are supposedly much better and my own experience confirms this. My old(and now sold) 29um57 was near perfect in the backlight and glow issue but ofcourse i understand that it could have been a lucky one.
 
I'm going down the AMD route now that I missed out on the x34 for 799 (from the forest site thing - who are now 1k).

I can get a gpu upgrade + a monitor with freesync for the cost of the same monitor with gsync
 
montymint said:
I'm going down the AMD route now that I missed out on the x34 for 799 (from the forest site thing - who are now 1k).

I can get a gpu upgrade + a monitor with freesync for the cost of the same monitor with gsync
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Sensible way to go, and Adaptive Sync (Freesync) is only going to get better :)

My X34 was a B-Grade bargain, and it's fantastic ;) :D
 
Purgatory said:
OR do as I do set the volume on the monitor to zero ;). That pop is not a fault just as you realised the DP audio starting up and creates that pop sometimes, scared hell out of me the first time it happened then realised the second time it came from the speakers not the panel and muted the audio on the monitor and never happened again.:D
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Why you didn't tell me?
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Just to clarify, does adaptive sync mean that in the Nvidia control panel I can try and push the refresh rate...say from 60hz to something higher like 75hz?

Do many of the 21:9 monitors allow this?
 
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