***21.9 Ultrawide Thread***

Yeah no doubt for gaming and media, curve wouldn't be so bad but I imagine for browsing, photoshop etc. it would be extremely annoying.

Samsung are certainly developing/producing a number of 100Hz VA panels that are 3440 x 1440 and have various degrees of curvature. But whether or not one is used in this model is not yet confirmed. And IPS models often mask banding for the dark shades which people often complain about quite nicely with their IPS glow. Due to the stronger contrast and lack of said glow it simply sticks out a lot more on VA panels.

Maybe IPS glow isn't such a bad thing in the end then :p
 
Decided to update my brief review of the LG 29UM65 and added a few slightly better photos

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Below is a brief review of the LG 29UM65 ultrawide monitor, which comes in at about £280.

Unfortunately my first two units had extremely bad backlight bleed, mainly the bottom left corner and the second one also had a dead pixel in the central area. It seems like this is quite a common problem with these LG 21.9 ultra wide monitors as a number of users on various forums have reported the same issue as well as a few of the 34" model owners... This third one is a lot better but still not "perfect", however, under normal conditions, the bleed & IPS glow is not noticeable.

My first monitor @ 20% brightness:

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Second monitor @ 20% brightness:

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The photos make the bleed and IPS glow look worse than what it really was like. It was mainly the bottom left that was very noticeable even during daylight usage.

I contacted LG directly for the second one to see if they could repair it rather than me doing another RMA and getting an even worse one, however, their response was an absolute joke, essentially they told me to "only use the monitor during the day and with a low brightness", needless to say, I cut the guy off there and proceeded to sort a RMA out with the retailer.

I was determined to get a good one as there was nothing else on the market that interested me at all and I didn't fancy any of the other 29" monitors due to them having their own downfalls.

Packaging:

The box is relatively small considering the size of the monitor. The monitor and items are well protected.

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Along with the monitor, we receive one HDMI cable, audio cables and the power brick (which is pretty small, it is a bit longer than a credit/debit card with the width being smaller than a credit/debit card) + power cord.

Features:

- Screen size: 29"

- Panel Type: IPS

- Aspect Ratio: 21:9

- Resolution: 2560x1080

- Brightness: 300 cd/m2

- Contrast Ratio: 50000000:1

- Viewing Angle: 178/178

- Colour Depth: 16.7M (8-Bit)

- Pixel Pitch: 0.315 x 0.310 mm

- Colour Gamut: sRGB

- Surface Treatment: Hard Coating (3H), Anti-Glare

- Connectivity: 1x DVI-D, 2x HDMI, 1x DisplayPort

- Dimensions (with stand) - 702.5 x 181 x 418.2
- Dimensions (without stand) - 702.5 x 63.8 x 328.2

- Warranty: 2 years

Aesthetics and Stand:

The monitor looks absolutely gorgeous overall, due to the bezel free edges at the top and sides (as in no plastic chassis sticking out), the front looks very sleek. My only complaints with the aesthetics are; the LG symbol AND "LG" writing at the front, only need to have the one there, not both... and the glossy plastic finish, I still don't know why manufacturers insist on using glossy plastic these days, it just looks cheap and is a finger print magnet, give me a matte finish any day of the week!

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Underneath the power LED, we have a directional joystick for controlling the OSD, which in my eyes is better than having 5+ buttons to use like you get with DELL monitors. The OSD menu is nicely laid out, it is easy to use and best of all, there is an option to turn off the power LED. Although some sections could be better organised.

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The rear ports on the back face outward, which I much prefer to downward facing ports, I find it much easier to connect and disconnect cables. We also have VESA mounting holes (75x75)

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The stand is very basic, you only have angle adjustment and two height choices, with the max height still being a bit too low, a box will fix this though :p Dell still have the best stands out there.

Image quality:

Unfortunately, my camera will not do this screen any justice so you will just have to take my word!

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Out of the box, the screen looks well calibrated already although it is far too bright but then they did have the brightness set to 100%...... the cinema preset mode looks more accurate though, I will go into this more later on. I think the right side of my monitor is a bit darker than the left side.

A photo/snapshot from a video of a black screen @20% brightness, once again, the camera makes the bleed/glow/blacks look worse than what it really is, the top and bottom left is IPS glow as if I move the camera and my head more towards that area, it disappears, if this was bleed, it would remain visible no matter how I view the corner.

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The screen looks absolutely amazing, it is extremely bright, so much that I have the brightness set to 10% and my PC/monitor sits right beside a big velux window too.

After much testing and tweaking, I have found a brightness of 10% and contrast of 66 with everything else on default except colour temperature set to custom to look the most accurate to my eyes. I have set my brightness to 10% in order to achieve an ideal contrast ratio. Whilst the official specs state a "50000000:1" contrast ratio, with proper calibration for "normal" usage, this is impossible for an IPS display, you can expect the contrast ratio to be between 1000 & 1400 on this particular model, remember all panels will vary slightly though.

Cinema mode is probably the best preset, however, I find it to be too aggressive on the gamma and contrast, the two other presets are awful; game mode is far too blue & photo mode over saturates the colours especially red.

The anti-glare coating seems really good, not too aggressive and not too light, the clarity/sharpness is very good (virtually no grainy look to it), definitely better than my Dell U2311H anti-glare coating.

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Once I got the monitor set to my ideal settings as above, I went to Lagom LCD test web site to properly test it:

Black test; all 20 grey squares are distinguishable

White saturation test; all 12 patterns are distinguishable

Gamma Calibration; to my eyes, it looks like the darker & lighter bands blend in at 2.2 (the ideal gamma setting for all displays)

Banding; If I look very closely, I can just about detect some banding

Once again though, in order to get the best and most accurate gamma, colour temperature, RGB values etc. you NEED a hardware calibrator.

As usual with good IPS panels, the viewing angles are great. The top left of this monitor is quite bad for IPS glow on a black/dark screen though once you view it from the right side.

Also, the "warm up" time from when you first turn the monitor on is very short i.e. it is very bright within milliseconds, with my Dell U2311H, it would take a few minutes till the brightness was at its peak.

The area where this monitor really shines and the sole reason I bought it is because of films, the majority of films take the full screen up so no black bars that you get with 16.9/16.10 screens. Of course there are a number of films that aren't shot in the 21.9 aspect ratio i.e. Ant Man, however, with the right media player, you can zoom in, this works pretty well for most films and the quality, sharpness still looks great especially if you sit further back. Most TV shows will have black bars at the side. With the content that has black bars at the side, the video image will be the same size as a 23" 16.9 monitor.

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The majority of games also work well with the 21.9 aspect ratio. Some will have no problems at all where as others might have a few issues i.e. cut scenes & menus, the screen will go back to 16.9 so black bars at the side and the UI/HUD will still be in 16.9 format i.e. Assassins Creed Syndicate and GTA 5

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Thankfully there are a few games that have no HUD or have been developed with 21.9 in mind, some might require a bit of messing around in cfg files though i.e. Fallout 4:

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As you can probably tell from that last photo of BF 4, you also get more FOV at the sides, which is superb for vehicle game play, especially when flying jets. Not much of a MMORPG or racing gamer but I am sure that those sort of games would look even better on this monitor.

You can enable the 21.9 aspect ratio via file tweaks with most games that don't support the aspect ratio out of the box.

There is a fantastic program that will properly support ultrawide and give the proper FOV now called flawless widescreen

For more info. on which games do and don't support the 21.9 aspect ratio, check this thread out as well as this youtube channel.

I don't have the proper equipment to test the input lag, however, going by the AOC, ASUS and other newer LG 29" monitor reviews, the input lag should be about 5-13ms.

In Linus's youtube review he says that he finds this monitor noticeably snappier than the 34UM95.

There are multiple settings for the response time in the OSD menu; off (highest response time), low, middle and high (lowest response time). After much testing, I have found the "high" setting to be the best, it has the least motion blur with some inverse ghosting and feels a little bit more responsive than the "medium" preset to me, I used this site to test all the options.

I can't say that I feel at any disadvantage in FPS shooters with this monitor, I still do well. Of course if you are a serious FPS gamer and don't mind not having the best image quality, colours, viewing angles etc. then you should be looking at TN 144Hz monitors.

For general usage i.e. browsing, windows etc. I don't have any complaints about the 1080P vertical height res. I see some comments from people on a number of forums who regard it to be an "utterly stupid vertical height res.", true, you have to put in a lot more effort to scroll the middle mouse wheel a bit more often to see the next line...

You can easily watch a video plus read a web page on this ultrawide monitor. Three windows is a bit a too cramped for my liking.

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Now this is the only other area that is rather disappointing, the majority of youtube videos out there will have black borders all the way around the actual video i.e.

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There are a few videos, which support the 21.9 aspect ratio though.

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Thankfully there is a superb chrome extension to fix this issue.

Conclusion:

All in all, I couldn't be happier. The monitor does everything I wanted. For any type of media and even general usage for browsing, 21.9 aspect ratio is superior to 16.9/16.10 in my opinion.

Films and games have that cinematic look now, which simply put, feels a lot more immersive than 16.9/16.10 aspect ratio monitors.

There are other 29" ultrawide monitors out there using the same panel but none of them ticked all the boxes like this LG model, we have the following:

AOC - stand looks really bad plus is sat too far forward (problem for me since my desk depth is already very small), build issues
Dell - would have been my choice due to their superb service and swap on door service (wouldn't have minded paying the extra £100 just for that), unfortunately the input lag is very high
ASUS - seems like the best screen all round for performance and image quality etc. but there are quite a few negative posts on their customer service/RMA, issues with build quality, no VESA mounting holes and a £100 more

So really the only area where LG could improve this monitor is; the stand, better QC and a matte plastic finish

Pros:

  • Good price considering what you get
  • Great image quality all round thanks to a decent contrast ratio, amazing anti glare finish & good out of the box calibration settings
  • The 21.9 aspect ratio is just sublime, gaming is much more immersive and being able to watch films without black bars is stunning
  • VESA 75x75mm mount
  • No chassis bezel + thin bezel/black borders

Cons:

  • Lottery as to if you will get a good one or not with regards to back light bleed i.e. QC testing is crap by LG
  • Glossy plastic finish
  • Very basic stand, only two height adjustments available, which are hindered by two screws i.e. not free moving like DELL's stands
 
Yup completely agree, I sort of touched upon it with the "can maintain at least 100FPS most of the time to make proper use of 144HZ" but should have explained it better looking back now :p IMO, it is rather pointless buying these high refresh rate screens if you can't maintain the FPS required to get the "full" benefit from them.

However, I would rather have g/free sync than no g/free sync when at those FPS, as at least the stuttering and tearing is gone.

That is one reason why I didn't get the 3440x1440 screen in the end and probably won't until we have single GPU's capable of running games on mostly max settings with at least a constant 60 FPS. For myself, anything less than 50 just feels and looks horrible even if there is no "stutter"

This is why I also badly want a 144HZ 2560x1080 29" free/g sync screen, it would make for a great gaming screen "overall", you would get the 21.9 goodness, decent enough PPI, easy enough res. to run high FPS with mostly max settings with current top end single GPU cards.

It is a shame that review sites, especially tftcentral and pcmonitors didn't do more reviews of the 29" screens when they were released as there is little to no interest in them these days, maybe it is just the consumer base in general as well, no demand for them so reviewers don't see the point of reviewing them.
 
Ah shame that, most companies these days only seem to be interested in giving monitors to youtubers with lots of subscribers who essentially just read the spec list for 5 minutes with fancy video presentation skills... :/

29" certainly does get a panning for the height and vertical res., shame really as I find 2560x1080 21.9 great for productivity and whilst 1440 would be better, imo it isn't as bad as people make it out to be. If I had to choose between the 2, the physical height certainly bugs me more than the 1080 res. Personally I rather have a 29" 1080 over a 27" 1440 screen.

I would love the extra height of a 34" screen but I just have a feeling that it would be too wide for me.
 
LG are just shooting themselves in the foot with their lack of communication with me to be honest. If you search for any of their recent models numbers on Google - if I've discussed them on my website - my news pieces have excellent visibility. I have no trouble reaching the sort of users they need to reach or giving them the information they crave. It isn't LG themselves though, it's their PR company who seem to completely ignore any contact I make with them. 'Daniel - LG' getting in touch with them (if he remembered) didn't yield any results either - https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=29191262#post29191262. So I've reached a complete dead-end there. And frankly I've got lots of great contacts who are really friendly and easy to work with for the other manufacturers, so I'm not going to bend over backwards to accommodate LG if they are going to be difficult.

Ranting aside, there are some 30" UltraWide panels on the way from AUO (2560 x 1080 and 3440 x 1440 parts, 144Hz VA) which might interest those who wanted just a little bit of extra screen space or a higher resolution.

Yeah fair enough and I don't disagree, they are only doing themselves more harm by not getting monitors sent out to you. I wonder if I where to contact them, would they give me something to review :D

WHAT?! Nice :cool: Here's hoping for great motion clarity and freesync + sensible price
 
29" UWA is a bit too small IMO once you've owned a 34" and use a 29" for a bit (owned both). 34" 1440 UWA is the ultimate sweet spot IMO for size and picture quality.

Only thing that bothers me with the 29" is the height, about another 1-2" taller and it would be perfect for me.
 
Hopefully OLED comes soon as after comparing a 6P (OLED 5.7" screen) to my 29um65 IPS monitor, OLED just destroys the monitor in every way possible and then proceeds to nuke it from orbit a hundred times for colours, contrast ratio and viewing angles :D

Until sensibly priced OLED monitors arrive which probably won't be till 2018, my next monitor is definitely going to be VA based, I badly need a higher contrast ratio display than the pitiful CR of IPS and TN screens :(
 
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Bad move imho. You really notice the PPI difference going from 1440p to 1080p.

Depends on how far he sits from the screen.

He will notice far more of a difference in vertical screen real estate than the PPI.


To give you an idea of screen real estate space at 21.9 2560x1080, here is a screenshot:

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Just noticed AMD now allow you to fine tune overclocks for monitors, wondering if anyone knows what settings to use to try and achieve 75HZ on my LG 29um65?

I believe some have been able to get 75HZ without frame skipping on nvidia systems

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Any ideas on where to start?
 
Yeah wouldn't do any harm trying it I imagine, thanks.

I have tried CRU before and messing with a couple of settings but always got frame skipping with anything above 60HZ :(
 
Certainly making me think twice about a 3440x1440 display especially ones with a 75+HZ refresh rate now! A 30-32" 144HZ 2560x1440 21.9 display will be the sweet spot

IMO, it just isn't worthwhile paying more for higher refresh rate screens if you aren't able to push the FPS to get the "full" benefit from said higher refresh rate unless.... you are happy to put up with the SLI/crossfire issues (which is only going to get worse imo)

Obviously the next lot of GPU's will improve performance over current top end GPUs but with the way most PC games these days are going, they are only getting more and more demanding.
 
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Personally I wouldn't touch that model phix, crap freesync range of 55-75, better of with the cheaper and better acer x34.

I don't agree. A monitor purchase like this should last you for several years and through multiple GPU cycles. I wouldn't buy a monitor based purely on what my GPU can do today, and what frames I get today.

Ultimately, the ultra-wide gsync experience is awesome, even at lower frame rates. If you find games are that demanding to be a problem, just run the monitor in 2560 x 1440 for those games. Job done.

If you intend on keeping the monitor for several years then fair enough.

And yes, no doubt a GPU in 2-3 years will be more than capable of running today's current games with ease on max settings @ 3440x1440 but I suspect that no one will be playing these games again in 2-3 years time and the new lot of games will probably run about the same as what todays games on max settings at 3440x1440 run at with the current top end GPUs, maybe slightly better but I still can't see them getting over 75FPS consistently.

No doubt that g/free sync is superb for lower frames but that is my point, you would be getting more or less the same experience on a 60HZ g/free sync display as you would on a 75+HZ free/g sync display if.... you are getting <60FPS.

And yeah you could do but then you lose out on the 21.9 aspect ratio :p

If you meant 2560x1080, yeah you could do that as the difference doesn't look to be too big compared to 3440x1440 but that is the problem, the price for 3440x1440 is substantially more than 2560x1080.

Picking up on your point for watching movies - I was a bit disappointed with quality of the picture at 21:9 resolution; it seems to stretch the image so even when watch a 1080p recording it doesn't look that sharp. Is that just the way it is or is there something you can do to improve it?

Check my OP/first post of this thread, I included a bit about madvr + MPC HC, it helps with the upscaling of films.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146228

Lots of help in that thread regarding what settings if you want to fine tune a bit more.
 
There are a lot of films shot in 21.9 (technically it is 2:35x1), I would say that there are more shot in that than 16.9.

I believe it also depends on the source i.e. if watching straight from DVD, you have to do various work arounds for 21.9 and likewise for films from google play store.

My OP has info. on how to get films to properly adjust with MPC + madvr for certain aspect ratios.
 
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