Bitslice does have a valid point, even if overplayed somewhat. There was a significant period where the fall of the Roman Civilisation led to an interregnum where much of the technology and learning of Rome was forgotten or simply ignored as Roman influence withdrew back into Rome itself and other less advanced peoples filled the void. We now know that it was not as widespread or complete as once thought (we no longer refer to The Dark Ages for example), but there was significant regression nonetheless...offset in large part by The Christian Church and its efforts to preserve Knowledge and Language.
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Bitslice does have a valid point, even if overplayed somewhat. There was a significant period where the fall of the Roman Civilisation led to an interregnum where much of the technology and learning of Rome was forgotten or simply ignored as Roman influence withdrew back into Rome itself and other less advanced peoples filled the void. We now know that it was not as widespread or complete as once thought (we no longer refer to The Dark Ages for example), but there was significant regression nonetheless...offset in large part by The Christian Church and its efforts to preserve Knowledge and Language.
Soldato
Erm weren't the Romans polytheists?
Which was reintroduced from Europe along with Christianity
What, did you think a bunch of dark age pagans were going to continue to speak Latin?
They went right back to old english
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Soldato
Leaving nothing whatsoever?
The idea that Romans left no mark at all on this country's culture is laughable.
The idea that Romans left no mark at all on this country's culture is laughable.
No, we speak a language based largely on Germanic languages. The Roman Empire spoke Latin and more widespread, Greek.
Latin or rather Italic languages are the Romance languages, such as Italian, Portuguese and French...English is a Germanic language such as German, Dutch and Norwegian.
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You could ask Castiel about the language thing, it's complicated but basically I'm right.
This was my original point, everyone points at Romans having a significant affect on British culture, when the reality was just temporary. As soon as they left we reverted back to the dark ages.
Later on things change, but that's nothing to do with whether the Romans invaded us or not.
It is a very fuzzy issue though because people were moving everywhere.
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Caporegime
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A cheaper car wash is not an economic benefit. That money would still be spent elsewhere on goods and services that would help to fuel the economic multiplier. Without the direct withdrawal and without funding mass immigration and mob run businesses.
Soldato
Alright, I can understand what you're both saying and appreciate the lesson.
Having said that, it's still invalid to say that our culture comes from the Victorian period. I mean, that's fine, but where did their culture come from, and their ancestors cultures, etc?
You cannot simply deny the role that immigration plays in cultural changes in this country.
Having said that, it's still invalid to say that our culture comes from the Victorian period. I mean, that's fine, but where did their culture come from, and their ancestors cultures, etc?
You cannot simply deny the role that immigration plays in cultural changes in this country.
Briefly above.
It wasn't temporary exactly...it is simply an evolution (not always in one direction) European and Middle Eastern cultures are highly influenced through the Greek and Roman Civilisations, there was no such period as The Dark Ages, that is a redundant term these days...the withdrawal of Rome from Britain led to other influences, largely Germanic coming to the fore, and so on.
Our culture today is Western European, which has a myriad of influences dating back millennia...it includes The Romans, but is not limited to them..more recent influences have a more significant baring on contemporary culture as a rule.
Immigration has a significant impact on culture, as does its related motivators globalisation and imperialism.
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Ah, cups of tea, fish & chips, turkey & potatoes at Christmas. Sir Isaac Netwon, Isambard Kingdom Brunel, Queen Victoria, Sir Winston Churchill. The Beatles, The Rolling Stones. Totally uninfluenced by any other culture.
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It is to the individual paying for it?
The most obvious are ideas relating to architecture, multi story buildings, roads and sewers for example. Military techniques and weapons, even mundane things like glass windows and intensive farming are all influences led by Roman culture.
Soldato
Leaves play a huge part in international culture. Just look at cocaine, cannabis, coffee (I realise this is a bean, but all the same). Tea generated international trade leading to multiculturalism.
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But there was nobody at the time who could do any of that in Britain, it all had to be reintroduced later on?
We didn't rebuild aqueducts until centuries later
But there was nobody at the time who could do any of that in Britain, it all had to be reintroduced later on?
We didn't rebuild aqueducts until centuries later
A product is not a significant cultural influence, just because I buy op-amps from china does not make me appreciate Buddism. Tea has equally no affect on my morals or ethics, if we were a nation of Vimto drinkers the culture would look the same.
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Soldato
Who reintroduced it?
Not all were reintroduced into Britain and in many cases the reintroductions was in reality an example of more widespread use rather than a reintroduction...such as sewers for example, these were still used in Britain although their use became more elitist rather than universal which led to laws being passed in the 14th Century regarding municipal sewer systems and their upkeep....military tactics, farming techniques and building techniques were all still used, albeit to a lesser or altered form as influences waned and grew respectively and even if they were forgotten and later reintroduced, the influence is still distinctly Roman and therefore an influence on contemporary culture.
The Romans were in turn influenced by other cultures, such as The Greeks and in respect of Aquaducts that you mentioned, The Assyrians.
They, as did we, eventually improved on these techniques, but the ideas were introduced by others...similarly with our own Culture, it is a myriad of external and internal influences, both direct and indirect.
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