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Doing my post grad in Advanced Architectural Design and I look forward to year with no job once i graduate 
I know il end up going from weekend retail to full time retail for a period no doubt!
Architecture jobs are very hard to come by at the moment
I know il end up going from weekend retail to full time retail for a period no doubt!Architecture jobs are very hard to come by at the moment
Doing my post grad in Advanced Architectural Design and I look forward to year with no job once i graduate
Architecture jobs are very hard to come by at the moment
shame you missed out on dubai.
In 1999 that isn't a problem. In 1999 we didn't have so many BS subjects.
They dilute the prestige of the qualification. As has been said a 2:2 in 1999 held a lot more value then a 2:2 does today. If you want to do psychology or some other nonsense go to a community college and get a BTEC or whatever the latest fad is. Leave degrees to those who chose to do real subjects and have earned the right to progression.
Just the other day:
Her: "Hey what did you graduate with then!?!11"
Me: "3.71"
Her: "oh haha I beat you!! I got a 3.8"
Me: "Yeah but you did sports science"
Her: "so?"
Me: : /
I'll be graduating this summer with a degree (2:1 hopefully) in Multimedia Technology (bsc) but am a little worried as to what i will do about getting a job.
The course isn't that specialized to be honest, with 5 different modules every year such as 3D modelling, website production, media industry and graphics & design to name a few. The problem is that because none of the modules go into great detail i don't feel like i'm skilled enough in any of them to actually go out and get a job.
Guessing i will have to get a job afterwards which will provide training, so i will be able to work my way up the ladder.
The course isn't that specialized to be honest, with 5 different modules every year such as 3D modelling, website production, media industry and graphics & design to name a few. The problem is that because none of the modules go into great detail i don't feel like i'm skilled enough in any of them to actually go out and get a job.
Guessing i will have to get a job afterwards which will provide training, so i will be able to work my way up the ladder.
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How can exemptions be a bad thing? If you want to be an chartered accountant the degree is a wise choice - I've seen the benefits first hand.
As far as any career goes, degree or no degree, it's just about having some luck and being in the right place at the right time with the right employer.
Having a decent degree under your belt will only be a positive thing!
It's pointless talking about jobs at the moment, I've seen people who are very experienced (and also have degrees) failing to find jobs; it's tough, times are hard.
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Caporegime
This is exactly the reason why I dropped out of my computer science degree. I knew people in the industry and the kind of knowledge I needed, and not a lot of the stuff being taught was real world applicable.
Soldato
Generally the people that don't like Computer Science because it seems too abstracted away from the real world will be much much happier on a software engineering course instead.
Luckily my CS course was a good mix between the good and useful parts of CS and software engineering.
Everyone here is confirming my fears.
I always aspired to go to uni and study something i loved. i wanted to delve into physics but frankly..I just wasn't smart enough. i did A-level maths and that was relatively difficult. I dreamed of going further but it just did not happen.
what HAS happened is I'm now at uni and have gone through 3 courses. waste of time? maybe so? but what it has taught me is that I partially agree with killa_ken. most of today's courses are mickey mouse courses. I'm actually doing one now and...well ill simplify it. most of the **** they "teach" me here I can learn of the bloody net. easy as chips. product design, industrial design, journalism & communication. and now photography and video. yes I've gone through all of these. At times i regret it at times i don't. what i do know is the field i want to go into. NO ONE...and i mean NO ONE will accept you without that piece of paper that says you've wasted a bunch of money on a pointless degree.
so tell me. what am i supposed to do? i KNOW I'm not clever enough to study my dream subject, physics. yet i don't wish to work at a mind numbing crap job. i want to teach. or report. so what's a mickey mouse course studying student supposed to do?
I always aspired to go to uni and study something i loved. i wanted to delve into physics but frankly..I just wasn't smart enough. i did A-level maths and that was relatively difficult. I dreamed of going further but it just did not happen.
what HAS happened is I'm now at uni and have gone through 3 courses. waste of time? maybe so? but what it has taught me is that I partially agree with killa_ken. most of today's courses are mickey mouse courses. I'm actually doing one now and...well ill simplify it. most of the **** they "teach" me here I can learn of the bloody net. easy as chips. product design, industrial design, journalism & communication. and now photography and video. yes I've gone through all of these. At times i regret it at times i don't. what i do know is the field i want to go into. NO ONE...and i mean NO ONE will accept you without that piece of paper that says you've wasted a bunch of money on a pointless degree.
so tell me. what am i supposed to do? i KNOW I'm not clever enough to study my dream subject, physics. yet i don't wish to work at a mind numbing crap job. i want to teach. or report. so what's a mickey mouse course studying student supposed to do?
The statistics dont lie. There are very few maths people with TC's in the city. That partly may be because not many apply to do law, but the fact is the IP area you mention is incredibly small. Most revenue comes from out and out corporate work, which is mainly contract based.
Yes I am a solicitor here in London. (but still a trainee - not qualified)
Caporegime
Having a degree shows potential employers you have a certain level of competency.
Exactly, people with a crap degree will find it harder to get a good job. Shocking isn't it!
I graduated a couple of years ago with an MPhys, and now doing a PhD in astrophysics. I decided to do the PhD as at the time I wanted to be a physicist, and this was the way to do it. Mainly I deal with modelling physics on clusters etc. I've really got into programming since starting so hoping to do something in that area now. I'm going to start thinking seriously about jobs this year, see what's available.
Sounds like you don't know what Computer Science is. Computer Science is a science. The science of information processing. It is not the engineering of software for industry. That degree is called software engineering.
This is a Classic piece of Computer Science:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gödel's_incompleteness_theorems
Caporegime
At the time (many years ago) I didn't really know exactly what degree I needed to do in order to learn relevant IT skills. The computer science degree I chose was touted as being broad and covered a lot of subjects. I enjoyed the Maths but some of the other modules I felt weren't worth much. After doing just over a year I decided the area I wanted to focus on was Web Design so I moved university and started in the 2nd year of a different course. I found again that most of the modules weren't worth anything in the real world. There's a lot of fluff and some of the technologies/software taught aren't being used in the industry much.
I'm sure there probably were many computing degrees that would have been great, but no where near as good as being in the industry and learning 100% relevant material.
I'm sure there probably were many computing degrees that would have been great, but no where near as good as being in the industry and learning 100% relevant material.
Soldato
No it doesn't. At all. It shows you can do coursework/pass exams. And even if you get a first, it means you get 30% of things wrong. 2-2 means you get 50% wrong
My Uncle (before he was made redundant) used to hate taking graduates on as they couldn't adapt to real life situations.
Caporegime
A 'certain' level of competency - meeting deadlines, organising time etc etc. I didn't say a high level of competency 