I’d leave the PSU unless you plan to use it. No point having kit sat idol burning through warranty waiting for a CPU that might be six months or more away from release.
4790k & 1080ti Upgrade time..
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I’d leave the PSU unless you plan to use it. No point having kit sat idol burning through warranty waiting for a CPU that might be six months or more away from release.
i just got a ryzen 3900 / 3080 on the used market and the difference is night and day gaming based on limited testing, the windows experience is identical. I'm thinking of getting the 5800x3d but if you're buying new, you may as well get the AM5 7800x3d
im giving my old 4770k / 1080 ti to my kids and could do with a 2nd one
Is there any reason to avoid the x670 boards, with longevity in mind?
I don't anticipate OC, just thinking of future CPU. The expected longevity of AM5 is what's attracting me, is all.
Also reading mixed reports about certain brands and either Bios or RTM issues. Feels like a minefield! You've recommended Asus boards, so assume they're a safe bet?
X670 doesn't have PCI-E 5.0 graphics, but sometimes it does have more connectivity, e.g. MSI X670-P has 4x M.2 slots of which one is PCI-E 5.0 (most B650 boards have 2 or 3 M.2 slots) and 6x SATA (most boards only have 4).
The circumstances X670 makes sense are not... common, since B650E boards can be more feature rich. X670 Aorus Elite is another example, a well-built board, but feature rich? Not really.
The main reason to buy X670E instead of X670 is PCI-E 5.0 graphics and over B650E, 4x M.2 slots. The very highest-end boards also tend to be X670E, if you want features like 10Gb LAN & USB 4 (like the X670E Creator), but these kind of boards are £400+ and the impact on the rest of your build by eating that much of the budget on the board rarely makes sense.
Most of the early issues have been addressed now, but you do still have to be careful with memory choice.
Asus specifically: no, I'm not recommending Asus specifically, it just happens to be that the B650E-F is one of the cheapest decently equipped boards for someone that wants to "future proof" their PCI-E graphics & SSD. If you can find a cheaper board with those features, then I have zero objection. Just don't buy one of these and you're good:
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Thanks for the detailed explanation!
So, based on advice and what I've been reading up on, the set up below should mean I'm good for a few years, have the opportunity to upgrade the cpu in future and PCIe 5?
Is there a particular m.2 that would work well with this?
Would likely be getting the Phantom 212.
The x670e-e was the other motherboard I was looking at.
My basket at OcUK:
So, based on advice and what I've been reading up on, the set up below should mean I'm good for a few years, have the opportunity to upgrade the cpu in future and PCIe 5?
Is there a particular m.2 that would work well with this?
Would likely be getting the Phantom 212.
The x670e-e was the other motherboard I was looking at.
My basket at OcUK:
- 1 x Asus ROG Strix B650E-E Gaming WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6JW-AS) = £235.99
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £359.99
- 1 x G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo EXPO RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-GSK-01356) = £139.99
Total: £735.97 (includes delivery: £0.00)
£290
(incl. VAT)
£270
(incl. VAT)
£420
(incl. VAT)
£360
(incl. VAT)
MEM-GSK-01356
£150
(incl. VAT)
£140
(incl. VAT)
Also, random but D30 fans would work in a Corsair 5000d airflow case?
Would they work with a phantom or noctua cooler if I went ott?
I have a cunning plan, you see. If I put all this in a case that looks like the one I have now, then she might not notice..
Would they work with a phantom or noctua cooler if I went ott?
I have a cunning plan, you see. If I put all this in a case that looks like the one I have now, then she might not notice..
that's a good price for the e-e
was about to say the same
Soldato
Here is the best that Ican do at just under£2500 it is futureproof
the corsair pcie 5.0 m.2s are reasonably priced, as seen here for the 1TB version, and here for the 2TB version
I have a 1 TB 5.0 main drive and windows is super snappy, things open near instantly, my side drives are my old ssd's from previous builds
since that board has gen5 pcie 5.0 m.2 slots, you want to get a gen 5 pcie5.0 for a boot drive, it also has some gen4 pcie4.0 slots, so you could save a little cash by just getting gen 4 pcie 4.0 dm.2 for them as side drives, but you could run up to x4 pcie5.0 m.2 if you want epic speed with everything
the corsair pcie 5.0 m.2s are reasonably priced, as seen here for the 1TB version, and here for the 2TB version
I have a 1 TB 5.0 main drive and windows is super snappy, things open near instantly, my side drives are my old ssd's from previous builds
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A few things to note:
- The B650E-E has 4x M.2 slots on paper, but B650/B650E struggles to have enough lanes for this and it steals them from the graphics card which reverts to 8 lane operation when you fill all the M.2 slots. Would I care? No, but if you're buying the B650E-E specifically for the extra slot over the B650E-F then it is worth knowing.
- RGB RAM is often rather tall if you're air cooling, though it depends on the RAM and the cooler if that matters.
Is that a cooler?
It says in the description on Corsair's website of the 5000D Airflow that it uses a "repeater" that has 6x slots for fans, with 2x fans included. I don't know if it supports only 4-pin PWM, but I assume these are supported because it calls the repeater a PWM repeater. I think Phanteks D30 fans are 4-pin PWM.
I think the RGB on Phanteks fans is proprietary (D-RGB), but it says it includes an adapter for the motherboard and since it is 5v, I assume you use the addressable 5v header of which the B650E-E has 3. Do check though because if you get the voltage or the pinout wrong with RGB bad things happen and they're not as user friendly or standardised as other connectors on the board.
Just for gaming it isn't that important, but I'd consider a higher-end drive for your boot drive and a lower-end drive for storage, e.g. Crucial T500 for boot, apps and games and WD SN580 for games storage.
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Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120, apologies.
if there's money involved...she'll know
I go with distraction...bunch of flowers to start.....
depends on how much storage you need and how much you want to spend ofc
personally have a 2tb sn850x for my windows/programs/games and a second sn770 2tb for my media files/general storage
getting rid of stata drives = less cable mess
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With the peerless assassin, I believe you can raise the right fan a bit to give you more RAM height clearance, since the phantom spirit is so similar I assume you can do the same, but I don't know.
I wouldn't waste a slot on a small boot drive, especially since small drives tend to be worse value (500GB can be terrible value).
agree. with the latest drives (not including gen 5 - personally think this is not required at the moment)...2tb is the best compromise of performance and value
Got it, so a couple of 2tb with 500gb partitioned off on one for Boot?
Yeah, that's usually the best option. You can get a 1TB drive for not a bad price, but it depends on the drive and the sales at the time.
honestly unless you frequently reinstall windows there's not really any need to partition a ssd, and definitely not for any performance-related reason.
back in the day with spinning hdd...yes, you did benefit from partitioning as the first partition was on the outer rim of the spinning disk hence faster read/writes...but that was like three decades ago, you dinosaur
