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FreeStream · 19 Dec 2017 at 16:02

Read through this thread but still none-the-wiser to what player I should hook up to either a QLED or an OLED (thats for a different thread...)

I don't need any fancy features (why do 4K players have streaming services when they will almost always be hooked up to a 4K TV with the same services!?)
I do need a separate HDMI out connection for audio (unless optical is sufficient)?
I don't need wifi.

Other than that, cheap as poss.

What I also don't understand is why player are doing any processing what so ever, is there a player I can let the TV crack on with it?

Digital info is digital info, just read it off the disc and send it to the TV - why mess around with it!?

signs · 19 Dec 2017 at 16:15

xbox s

VincentHanna · 19 Dec 2017 at 19:28

signs said:
xbox s

Yep, could even get a second hand one.

Captain · 19 Dec 2017 at 19:30

Got my copy of IT, plays 4K through iTunes, looks great too.

deuse · 19 Dec 2017 at 21:29

Clov!s said:
Got my copy of IT, plays 4K through iTunes, looks great too.

How big are they?
the new IT film about 50\80GB in size. I did look into iTunes but the quality wasn't up to much.

Captain · 19 Dec 2017 at 21:32

deuse said:
How big are they?
the new IT film about 50\80GB in size. I did look into iTunes but the quality wasn't up to much.

They are streamed so file size I wouldn’t know.

Picture quality is great, don’t know where you got that from.

deuse · 19 Dec 2017 at 21:34

Clov!s said:
They are streamed so file size I wouldn’t know.

Picture quality is great, don’t know where you got that from.

Yes it looks ok. But not full fat HDR

Captain · 19 Dec 2017 at 21:40

deuse said:
Yes it looks ok. But not full fat HDR

It’s HDR10 so it can’t get any better can it?

deuse · 19 Dec 2017 at 21:42

Clov!s said:
It’s HDR10 so it can’t get any better can it?

If you are ever in Solihull, come see how it's done right

HDR10 I mean :eek:

Captain · 19 Dec 2017 at 21:58

deuse said:
If you are ever in Solihull, come see how it's done right
HDR10 I mean

Haha I know what true HDR10 is like and it is amazing!

I’m only 20 minutes from Solihull but never go there, don’t want to come back to no wheels on my car

jpaul · 19 Dec 2017 at 22:13

Clov!s said:
They are streamed so file size I wouldn’t know.

itunes 4k ~15Mb/s 135min film so ~15GB total

HungryHippos · 19 Dec 2017 at 23:34

jpaul said:
itunes 4k ~15Mb/s 135min film so ~15GB total

It's mainly the audio quality you lose out on with the streamed stuff, video won't be too far off with good compression.

jpaul · 20 Dec 2017 at 00:00

... Conduct the experiment yourself from http://4kmedia.org/tag/sports/ for example you can take full fat 70Mb/s action example and compare with the 15Mb/s vp9 version from utube
eg http://4kmedia.org/sony-mont-blanc-hdr-uhd-4k-demo/

deuse · 20 Dec 2017 at 05:21

I can see what MBs are by looking at the info on my UB900.
I was just wondering what people thought of streaming compared to a UB900 player. Which is the best player out there.

hyperseven · 20 Dec 2017 at 05:32

deuse said:
I can see what MBs are by looking at the info on my UB900.
I was just wondering what people thought of streaming compared to a UB900 player. Which is the best player out there.

What makes it the best player? The players software, hardware?

deuse · 20 Dec 2017 at 05:57

hyperseven said:
What makes it the best player? The players software, hardware?

Both. But the UB900 has better 4k chroma subsampling.

hyperseven · 20 Dec 2017 at 09:11

deuse said:
Both. But the UB900 has better 4k chroma subsampling.

cheers, how does that differ from a PC connected to a 4K TV displaying from a full bit rate source, if any, are the bits and bobs on a modern GPU the same as in a dedicated player?

deuse · 20 Dec 2017 at 19:28

hyperseven said:
cheers, how does that differ from a PC connected to a 4K TV displaying from a full bit rate source, if any, are the bits and bobs on a modern GPU the same as in a dedicated player?

Sorry I wouldn't about that.

varkanoid · 21 Dec 2017 at 15:46

deuse said:
I can see what MBs are by looking at the info on my UB900.
I was just wondering what people thought of streaming compared to a UB900 player. Which is the best player out there.

I can't stand Apple so would not buy the box.The streamed 4k content I have is from Netflix which I know is 15mb/s so same as Apple TV. Its okay and I am quite happy to watch the odd film I would never buy as a disc and I watch all the 4k Marvel stuff but I can tell the difference when I put on a disc. I can even tell the difference between Force Awakes streamed v bluray. I just prefer films on disc. The sounds is a big one for me too since I upgraded my speakers I can really tell the difference when I see a 4k 5.1 film against a 4k Dolby Atmos/Dolby True HD/DTS HD. It may be more expensive on disc but I am picky over what I buy on disc. If I want to see a film but not buy the disc I`m still happy seeing it streamed HD. Just my personal preference.

Streamed 4k movies to me, and this is just my personal opinion so dont hate me but its a bit like having a 1080ti and your monitor is only 1080p 144mhz. You know what you are getting is smooth and looks good but there is still that nagging feeling you are missing out and should really be 1440p 144mhz. A bit like wanting a 1080ti but you have to settle for a 1070 as you really cant afford the 1080ti.

Captain · 22 Dec 2017 at 16:07

Cost me £7 through FandangoNow, plays 4K through iTunes.

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