7700k delided CPU delided

[SniperDude]

My GPU temp is high because its under 100% load the CPU is only at 50% for battlefield even if I ramped the fans on the GPU up its not going to make a difference
look at the temp of the ssd card that sat between the two.

You don't get the shocking chat??? you mean its ok to leave the Intel silicone on the CPU and dot a few blobs of sealant around hmmm

 

[Finners]

To be fair your GPU temp is pretty high are you sure you're getting the air thought the case and out?

I don't get all the 'shocking way of doing it' chat - looks perfectly fine to me, if you used CLU you would know it looks like that. The only issue appears to be the black gasket seal hasn't held hence it arrived in bits. Granted the packaging wasn't up to standard but nothing looks out of sorts with the actual delid.

The original black sealant should be removed and replaced not just more blobs added within it. Actually highly likely that the IHS is sitting further away from the core than a stock 7700k.

 

[Smffy]

The original black sealant should be removed and replaced not just more blobs added within it. Actually highly likely that the IHS is sitting further away from the core than a stock 7700k.

No... There is no way its sitting higher, the blobs added are not where the outer stock seal is so it would seat down nicely on to the die under the pressure of the cooler and if the underside of the IHS was cleaned off it will sit lower if anything. The sealant is soft and replacing the IHS back in to its groove will give more than adequate pressure to the important stuff underneath.

 

[Gerard]

No... There is no way its sitting higher, the blobs added are not where the outer stock seal is so it would seat down nicely on to the die under the pressure of the cooler and if the underside of the IHS was cleaned off it will sit lower if anything. The sealant is soft and replacing the IHS back in to its groove will give more than adequate pressure to the important stuff underneath.

Kyle Bennett at hardocp was delidding a few and he was of the opinion that the contact he got after scraping the intel stock stuff and using some of his own was better than it was from the factory. Doesn't take much for the difference between a good contact and a bad one. Its mentioned near the end of the second video.

 

[RichUK]

what sort of temps should I be seeing round abouts stock delid?

I can check later, but around 60 degrees with average cooling when running prime v26.6 I'd guess.

Here's mine @ 5.1ghz / 1.376v - temps are ~65 degrees

 

[233]

out of interest what sort of premium is being charged for a delidded ecu?


as someone mentioned earlier better presentation, a nice little custom 8 pack box with insert and maybe a printed certificate signed by Ian would really set these off. would cost literally a couple of quid per chip and would make the world of difference.

edit just had a look £100 premium surely theres scope for spending a couple of quid then and a few minutes time to showcase this as a proper premium product

 

[Gerard]

edit just had a look £100 premium surely theres scope for spending a couple of quid then and a few minutes time to showcase this as a proper premium product

£100 premium for something that shows increases in synthetics and not much else, good stuff.

 

[Dervious]

£100 premium for something that shows increases in synthetics and not much else, good stuff.

Apparently some people are willing to pay the premium for the extra 100Mhz or two, as the extra computing power enables them to make extra money.

I think that for the average (or even not so average) games enthusiast, the difference between a 4.8 and a 5.1Ghz CPU is not going to be significant, even though the price difference is. Nevertheless, if you are willing to pay the premium for a binned and de-lidded CPU, I think it's reasonable to expect that the process should be done properly (carefully and neatly).

 

[RichUK]

I only paid £340 for mine, and that was 2 months before official release

 

[SaintJimmy]

Just wanted to say 8 Pack and support have been fantastic, I've sent the chip back and will update with how I get on.

 

[Curlyriff]

Yeah I brought up the presentation. No problem with the principle of the product. Ian (8-pack) does awesome job actually binning them and the aftercare is there. It's just that little presentation part in the final process that at the premiums we are discussing would just I feel round of the product to show it's elite quality that OcUK have done.

My brother works in marketing as head of Nissan feet cars and we had a chat about it and between us that was the principle idea we got too with the product.

 

[NegatronBear]

Discussed custom packaging for the binned chips with Ian and we're all in agreement that it would solidify the OcUK 8 Pack brand as a premium product if we ditched the OEM boxes. It is something he is going to look into when he gets chance so hopefully changes are a'comin'

Let us know if you need anything else

 

[Vimes]

Just wanted to say 8 Pack and support have been fantastic, I've sent the chip back and will update with how I get on.

That's good BUT you should not have had it sent to you in the first place in such condition.

I can't remember the brand but someone got a free kit for their cooler for use with a Ryzen CPU and it came in a lovely foam cut out presentation box, it did look amazing. And that was free....!

I have had better pizzas delivered than what you paid a premium for in that plain white cardboard box...!

 

[Dervious]

It doesn't take much thought to realise that if a customer is paying extra for a "premium" product, they are likely to expect a "premium" product. That means the product should perform well and be made to a high standard. I`ve never de-lidded a CPU, but a quick search of youtube reveals how it should be done, and it's exactly what I'd do. Removal of most/all of the sealant from around the CPU lid and PCB seems to be a sensible thing to do, in order that the lid makes good contact with the die when it is replaced. What OCUK seem to be doing is leaving most of the original sealant in place, and fixing the lid back on with a few blobs of sealant. I`ve read a few reports of higher than expected temperatures from these binned CPUs, which isn't surprising if the lid is not being properly fitted. To make matters worse, these CPUs are being sent out without decent packaging. It's good that OCUK will replace any "dodgy" CPUs, but it would be much better for everyone if more care was put into their production and were sent out with better physical protection. Pretty packaging would be a bonus, but a properly prepared product is probably far more important to most of the people who buy these CPUs.

 

[8 Pack]

I only paid £340 for mine, and that was 2 months before official release

Well done Rich your amazing...........now shut up and squat!!!

 

[8 Pack]

It doesn't take much thought to realise that if a customer is paying extra for a "premium" product, they are likely to expect a "premium" product. That means the product should perform well and be made to a high standard. I`ve never de-lidded a CPU, but a quick search of youtube reveals how it should be done, and it's exactly what I'd do. Removal of most/all of the sealant from around the CPU lid and PCB seems to be a sensible thing to do, in order that the lid makes good contact with the die when it is replaced. What OCUK seem to be doing is leaving most of the original sealant in place, and fixing the lid back on with a few blobs of sealant. I`ve read a few reports of higher than expected temperatures from these binned CPUs, which isn't surprising if the lid is not being properly fitted. To make matters worse, these CPUs are being sent out without decent packaging. It's good that OCUK will replace any "dodgy" CPUs, but it would be much better for everyone if more care was put into their production and were sent out with better physical protection. Pretty packaging would be a bonus, but a properly prepared product is probably far more important to most of the people who buy these CPUs.

We sold hundreds of these CPU in the 5.0 and 4.9 categories instances of this is limited. Return rate like 2% for this in which we replace or fix straight away.

 

[8 Pack]

Yeah I brought up the presentation. No problem with the principle of the product. Ian (8-pack) does awesome job actually binning them and the aftercare is there. It's just that little presentation part in the final process that at the premiums we are discussing would just I feel round of the product to show it's elite quality that OcUK have done.

My brother works in marketing as head of Nissan feet cars and we had a chat about it and between us that was the principle idea we got too with the product.

I agree with this we need to look at premium packaging for the product.

 

[8 Pack]

So here is Saintjimmys CPU which fixed and tested myself on AIO 120mm. I guess voltage may go lower I did not tune just guess and its fine straight up for 5.1ghz. Jimmy only ordered a straight up 5G so added value here!!

 

[Dervious]

We sold hundreds of these CPU in the 5.0 and 4.9 categories instances of this is limited. Return rate like 2% for this in which we replace or fix straight away.

Great, and I'm sure the customers who got good CPUs are very happy.

Were the good CPUs re-lidded in the same way that SaintJimmy's was, or was his a "one off" ?

I know it takes a little more time to re-lid neatly and better packaging would cost a bit more, but surely the return rate would be reduced to less than 2% (possibly almost 0%) and the satisfaction/reputation rate for OCUK would increase. These CPUs are not exactly cheap items, so it isn't unreasonable for customers to expect a top notch product.

 

[8 Pack]

If they come to me which I asked them to then yes same.

Saintjimmy paid for 5ghz but as I have said before 5.1ghz is very often possible on these CPU's as can be seen on the screenshots. We under promise over deliver.