8700K OcUK Stock and Binned Processors

somethingbrite · 16 Nov 2017 at 16:29

Those stats if true are pretty welcome and indicate Intel is probably shipping some nice silicon.

However, my point still stands. Once the binning process starts anything thats not being sold at a premium 5hgz+ capable chip by a reseller that is binning their stock will basically be known to be not capable.

You are guaranteed the runt of the litter unless you buy into the binned kit and pay that premium.

deFiniLoGy · 16 Nov 2017 at 16:35

somethingbrite said:
Those stats if true are pretty welcome and indicate Intel is probably shipping some nice silicon.

However, my point still stands. Once the binning process starts anything thats not being sold at a premium 5hgz+ capable chip by a reseller that is binning their stock will basically be known to be not capable.

You are guaranteed the runt of the litter unless you buy into the binned kit and pay that premium.

Or buy a retail chip and play the lottery game as usual?

southernorth · 16 Nov 2017 at 16:42

8 Pack said:
^^^ LOL 1.4Vcore without delid impossible sure your an expert Southernorth. Delid is essential to reach high frequencys and with OCUK full warranty included with all delided CPU's.

Where do I say they're not de-lidded? - it's silicon lottery, ofcourse they delids their CPUs. I'm highlighting that 5ghz likely isn't rare after a de-lid. This gives buyers a better idea of actually how rare the performance they pay for is.

How do your own de-lidded figures compare?

Rowethren · 16 Nov 2017 at 21:08

8 Pack said:
Binning now. Takes a couple of days to fully test afew.

I bough a retail and am seriously considering returning that (unopened) and getting a 5ghz delid instead for the improved temps considering at the price I paid it is only a £70 difference. Any idea or which day these should be done as I don't want to miss them (already subbed for a notification as well).

I am running a D5 pump at around 3 with an alphacool ut60 420mm & monsta 280 mm with a GTX 1080 ti EK block and an EK Supremacy Full Nickel block. Was running an i7 5820k @ 4.5ghz @ 1.3v but sadly my motherboard sata controller seems to have died so this has all come on a bit sudden. Hopefully this should be a nice upgrade though +500mhz on all cores plus I purchased a Samsung 960 Evo 1tb, boot speeds should be insane when I am all setup

Rainmaker · 16 Nov 2017 at 21:11

Rowethren said:
I bough a retail and am seriously considering returning that (unopened) and getting a 5ghz delid instead for the improved temps considering at the price I paid it is only a £70 difference. Any idea or which day these should be done as I don't want to miss them (already subbed for a notification as well).

I am running a D5 pump at around 3 with an alphacool ut60 420mm & monsta 280 mm with a GTX 1080 ti EK block and an EK Supremacy Full Nickel block. Was running an i7 5820k @ 4.5ghz @ 1.3v but sadly my motherboard sata controller seems to have died so this has all come on a bit sudden. Hopefully this should be a nice upgrade though +500mhz on all cores plus I purchased a Samsung 960 Evo 1tb, boot speeds should be insane when I am all setup

Do it. My 5GHz 8Pack chip runs 5GHz with no AVX offset (or 5.1-5.2 with 5.0 AVX), and now I've finished tweaking the EFI power settings my temps are in the 60s under RealBench stress (240mm AIO silent profile), and in the 40s under normal 100% daily loads. Idle is about 22oC (20oC ambient). You won't regret it imho, it's worth it for the warranty alone. What's £70 on a chip that'll last you years?

Rowethren · 16 Nov 2017 at 21:34

Rainmaker said:
Do it. My 5GHz 8Pack chip runs 5GHz with no AVX offset (or 5.1-5.2 with 5.0 AVX), and now I've finished tweaking the EFI power settings my temps are in the 60s under RealBench stress (240mm AIO silent profile), and in the 40s under normal 100% daily loads. Idle is about 22oC (20oC ambient). You won't regret it imho, it's worth it for the warranty alone. What's £70 on a chip that'll last you years?

60 in Realbench... Nice! With my huge radiator surface area I might not even hit 60 considering you got that with an AIO. I think I will probably go for it but it does mean I will be without a PC for probably 2 weeks in the end depending on when stock is ready

On a different note I have seen AVX mentioned in a few places but I have never manage to find out what exactly it does, can you enlighten me?

yoyo59 · 17 Nov 2017 at 00:56

Rainmaker said:
Do it. My 5GHz 8Pack chip runs 5GHz with no AVX offset (or 5.1-5.2 with 5.0 AVX), and now I've finished tweaking the EFI power settings my temps are in the 60s under RealBench stress (240mm AIO silent profile), and in the 40s under normal 100% daily loads. Idle is about 22oC (20oC ambient). You won't regret it imho, it's worth it for the warranty alone. What's £70 on a chip that'll last you years?

did you get lucky? or do they actually test these without AVX? which would mean the 5.2ghz could potentially do 5.4 which I very much doubt

Rainmaker · 17 Nov 2017 at 12:35

yoyo59 said:
did you get lucky? or do they actually test these without AVX? which would mean the 5.2ghz could potentially do 5.4 which I very much doubt

They don't test AVX. 8Pack has said a few times they tend to over-bin by about 100MHz (i.e. 5.1 = 5GHz bin).

geordiejc · 17 Nov 2017 at 21:08

southernorth said:
Where do I say they're not de-lidded? - it's silicon lottery, ofcourse they delids their CPUs. I'm highlighting that 5ghz likely isn't rare after a de-lid. This gives buyers a better idea of actually how rare the performance they pay for is.

How do your own de-lidded figures compare?

8Pack should really think before posting.

8 Pack · 17 Nov 2017 at 22:04

Yeah 8Pack should think before posting!!

In our experience depends on batch numbers. Only one batch behaving like they suggest I think..but we don't ever test above 1.4 commonly we test 1.35-1.375 tops.

yoyo59 · 18 Nov 2017 at 16:02

8 Pack said:
Yeah 8Pack should think before posting!!

In our experience depends on batch numbers. Only one batch behaving like they suggest I think..but we don't ever test above 1.4 commonly we test 1.35-1.375 tops.

do you test the binned CPUs with AVX offset?

8 Pack · 18 Nov 2017 at 20:20

Ofcourse not. Zero. We don't use avx for binning at all.

r7slayer · 19 Nov 2017 at 05:57

8 Pack said:
Ofcourse not. Zero. We don't use avx for binning at all.

So what's the max Vcore voltage you should expect from a 5ghz binned chip from you Ian? 1.375? If so not bad i guess.

8 Pack · 19 Nov 2017 at 13:45

1.425 is the max end users should apply. We are testing 1.35-1.375.

yoyo59 · 19 Nov 2017 at 14:10

8 Pack said:
1.425 is the max end users should apply. We are testing 1.35-1.375.

would a z370i strix be good enough to reach the frequencies of the binned chips?

Seal2fast · 19 Nov 2017 at 14:19

yoyo59 said:
would a z370i strix be good enough to reach the frequencies of the binned chips?

you shud look at wot boards the 8pack buddies come with for the binned cpu you want to buy.

I bought i7 7700k elite tier in Feb and ocuk let me remove the aio and altered the price because I had one.

for example
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/8pac...i7-8700k-5.00ghz-gaming-bundle-bu-00w-8p.html

BTVA · 19 Nov 2017 at 14:51

yoyo59 said:
would a z370i strix be good enough to reach the frequencies of the binned chips?

yes. Mine is running at 5.2Ghz core, 4.9Ghz ram, 4000 16-17-17-28-2T. The chip I bought randomly sealed, not binned by 8 Pack.

yoyo59 · 19 Nov 2017 at 16:09

BTVA said:
yes. Mine is running at 5.2Ghz core, 4.9Ghz ram, 4000 16-17-17-28-2T. The chip I bought randomly sealed, not binned by 8 Pack.

very nice setup, glad the motherboard is not limiting

Seal2fast · 19 Nov 2017 at 17:32

BTVA said:
yes. Mine is running at 5.2Ghz core, 4.9Ghz ram, 4000 16-17-17-28-2T. The chip I bought randomly sealed, not binned by 8 Pack.

nice one m8y

BTVA · 19 Nov 2017 at 18:08

Seal2fast said:
nice one m8y

Cheers bud

yoyo59 said:
very nice setup, glad the motherboard is not limiting

Well it is limiting in the cache and ram department, specifically, it can't run memory at 1T and the cache doesn't go above 4.9Ghz no matter what you set in bios. Apart from that it is good. Oh one more thing, you won't be able to use EK supremacy block with thick rams.