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8700K OcUK Stock and Binned Processors

BTVA said:
Cheers bud :)

Well it is limiting in the cache and ram department, specifically, it can't run memory at 1T and the cache doesn't go above 4.9Ghz no matter what you set in bios. Apart from that it is good. Oh one more thing, you won't be able to use EK supremacy block with thick rams.
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Does overclocking the cache actually provide a boost?
 
I'm at 5.0GHz CPU (no AVX offset), 5.0GHz cache/ring, RAM is still stock at 3600MHz but down a touch to c15. Voltages are - VCORE 1.35v, SA 1.25v, IO 1.25v, DRAM 1.375v. Is this OK, especially SA and IO? Pushing the ring to 5GHz has certainly boosted my Cinebench scores (1672 multi, 222 single). I'll see if I can nudge the RAM up now, and maybe reduce the IO voltage back to 1.2 now I know it's stable like this. Max temps in Realbench were 80 but generally mid 70s. More than acceptable for an AIO in silent mode IMHO.

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ETA: Regarding benefits of clocking the cache/ring. I don't know much, but my Cinebench score at 5.0 with the ring at 5.0 now equals my score with CPU at 5.2 and ring at 4.4.

CPUZ validation link confirming uncore/cache/ring.
 
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I might be mistaken but does this make three year's in a row that intel have under shipped there flagship (and also three years of "supply and demand") ?

Also after reading threw this long thread i find it quite weird that it seems a lot of these 8700k are just being stripped and sold on for profit ontop of there orignal price when i did not think there was any 8700ks that couldnt do 5ghz? even 5.1ghz (5.2ghz is where it does start to become less of a chance), just overall it does seem abit off.
 
trisp said:
I might be mistaken but does this make three year's in a row that intel have under shipped there flagship (and also three years of "supply and demand") ?

Also after reading threw this long thread i find it quite weird that it seems a lot of these 8700k are just being stripped and sold on for profit ontop of there orignal price when i did not think there was any 8700ks that couldnt do 5ghz? even 5.1ghz (5.2ghz is where it does start to become less of a chance), just overall it does seem abit off.
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Yeah I'd say its pretty much a rip off, 428 quid for non binned and and upto 800 quid for a 5.2 is nuts, but people are willing to pay it. Would never buy binned myself I can delid and OC my own, and like you say, most will do 5G with a delid and good cooling easy, no need to buy one at 500 quid, at least from my perspective. Does seem a little unfair that whatever chips seem to come in there binned and sold at the higher prices, goes to show how easily they all seem to OC
 
trisp said:
I might be mistaken but does this make three year's in a row that intel have under shipped there flagship (and also three years of "supply and demand") ?

Also after reading threw this long thread i find it quite weird that it seems a lot of these 8700k are just being stripped and sold on for profit ontop of there orignal price when i did not think there was any 8700ks that couldnt do 5ghz? even 5.1ghz (5.2ghz is where it does start to become less of a chance), just overall it does seem abit off.
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This has already been covered several dozen times in the very thread you've apparently read through. You're paying for a service on top of the CPU RRP. That not only includes the bin itself, but the delidding and warranty, too. This isn't a difficult concept to grasp. Not everyone is willing to spend just shy of £400 and not only risk damaging their CPU, but also voiding the warranty regardless. It's not for everyone, but it's obviously a service that some users are willing to pay for.
 
clone said:
Nice don't see the point in getting a binned cpu as you only get one year warranty with it.
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As opposed to the zero year warranty you'd get on a DIY delid? AFAIK all OEM chips are 1 year warranty, and binned chips are (usually) OEM/tray stock. The only difference with binned is OcUK carry the warranty instead of Intel due to the delid. Mine's still solid at 5GHz core, 5GHz cache/ring, no AVX offset. It'll do 5.2GHz core but I'd rather have 5GHz/5Ghz than 5.2Ghz/4.4GHz. I'm beating a reference 1800x at Cinebench by 70 points and am 45% faster single core. It's only 100 points slower in multicore than a 4GHz oc 1800x, and having 4 less threads that's pretty decent and worth it for the single core boost. Happy days. :)
 
BTVA said:
Well it is limiting in the cache and ram department, specifically, it can't run memory at 1T and the cache doesn't go above 4.9Ghz no matter what you set in bios. Apart from that it is good. Oh one more thing, you won't be able to use EK supremacy block with thick rams.
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What board is that? What voltages are your IO and SA? I had to go 1.25v for both to get 5GHz cache/ring.
 
Rainmaker said:
Have you tried 1.25v as I suggested? Mine won't boot reliably at 1.2v, but at 1.25v for both I'm fully stable at 5GHz cache.
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the problem is not the voltage, the problem is no matter how I set the ratio, says 50, it boots just fine but will only run at 49. Lacking voltage causes stability issue.
 
BTVA said:
the problem is not the voltage, the problem is no matter how I set the ratio, says 50, it boots just fine but will only run at 49. Lacking voltage causes stability issue.
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Ah, I see. My apologies I didn't realise. I did a quick search of the thread for your replies to try to get the back story before posting, but I must have missed that. There can't be any real world difference between 4.9 and 5.0 anyway - as you say it's just the OCD/ePeen. :D
 
Rainmaker said:
Ah, I see. My apologies I didn't realise. I did a quick search of the thread for your replies to try to get the back story before posting, but I must have missed that. There can't be any real world difference between 4.9 and 5.0 anyway - as you say it's just the OCD/ePeen. :D
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you done nothing wrong no need to apologise. about the clock, I agree completely. The difference is pretty much non existent but it's bugging me that's all :D
 
Do we really need to have it running at 5GHZ ? its already super FAST at the retail clock speed. I really don't get why some peeps would want it running at 5 GHZ , maybe 2 or 3 years down the line to get an extra year or so out of it yes but is there any need now ? I don't believe so.
 
jasonsony735 said:
Do we really need to have it running at 5GHZ ? its already super FAST at the retail clock speed. I really don't get why some peeps would want it running at 5 GHZ , maybe 2 or 3 years down the line to get an extra year or so out of it yes but is there any need now ? I don't believe so.
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What speed have you got yours running at Jason?

Ive just put in a big order this morning, hopefully its not to long a wait for the 8700k to come into stock.
 
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