8Packs no BS testing Intel 8700K and Z370 with Delid 5ghz and above available from OCUK.

Rezz · 20 Oct 2017 at 09:15

Temperatures in these games are nothing to be concerned about. Far from any throttling and fans not even going full speed. The behavior we see is clocks jumping between full and AVX or staying at AVX altogether.

Silent_Scone said:
When clamped and braced down by the socket bracket that shouldn't be an issue.

I would not be worried with conventional paste because it stays soft, but metal paste usually gets hard and brittle, so losing contact to the heatspreader could mean it ends up with gaps of air between die and IHS next time it is in the socket. I can do the promised 5.1 GHz in non-AVX Prime, but it is hitting 92°C with a dual fan NH-D15 in a Silverstone Raven RV-02E.

Silent_Scone · 20 Oct 2017 at 09:28

Rezz said:
Temperatures in these games are nothing to be concerned about. Far from any throttling and fans not even going full speed. The behavior we see is clocks jumping between full and AVX or staying at AVX altogether.
I would not be worried with conventional paste because it stays soft, but metal paste usually gets hard and brittle, so losing contact to the heatspreader could mean it ends up with gaps of air between die and IHS next time it is in the socket. I can do the promised 5.1 GHz in non-AVX Prime, but it is hitting 92°C with a dual fan NH-D15 in a Silverstone Raven RV-02E.

Nobody has mentioned what temps they were getting in games, which is why I asked. Not sure what folks are doing wrong, unless they can find other instances online of users reporting similar behaviour in games.

Can anyone who is experiencing this behaviour post their board, UEFI build, as well as Windows build, please

gavinh87 · 20 Oct 2017 at 10:03

Silent_Scone said:
Nobody has mentioned what temps they were getting in games, which is why I asked. Not sure what folks are doing wrong, unless they can find other instances online of users reporting similar behaviour in games.

Temps in games are about 60c, the frequency also drops in realbench/prime/aida/3dmark. It seems to drop in anything that uses more than 2 cores.
Remove the AVX offset and it will hold perfectly fine.

Rezz · 20 Oct 2017 at 10:29

Interesting, Prime 26.6 seems to work correctly for me when using the offset. But that is about the only thing besides Cinebench which can also have a very short drop occasionally.

gavinh87 · 20 Oct 2017 at 10:45

I have my LLC set to auto, not sure if that has anything to do with it.

Rezz · 20 Oct 2017 at 10:55

Running the highest LLC with virtually no droop, but I would assume Auto also gives you a high LLC setting under OC.

gavinh87 · 20 Oct 2017 at 10:59

Yeah auto provides no droop. Convinced this is a bios bug where it's unable to properly detect avx loads.

Rezz · 20 Oct 2017 at 11:05

Yeah, that is also my suspicion.

Silent_Scone · 20 Oct 2017 at 11:07

Rezz said:
Running the highest LLC with virtually no droop, but I would assume Auto also gives you a high LLC setting under OC.

No drop in clocks, either?

Rezz · 20 Oct 2017 at 11:15

Drops in games if using an AVX offset. Also Origin downloading a game seems to drop clocks to AVX clocks.

Silent_Scone · 20 Oct 2017 at 11:20

What board and UEFI build??? Are you using adaptive?

Rezz · 20 Oct 2017 at 11:42

Fixed voltage, around 1.36V for 5.0 GHz. Taichi with L1.16 BIOS.

jaffveyda · 20 Oct 2017 at 11:52

Can you achieve 5Ghz with air cooler (bequiet Dark Rock) without deliding? Or the temperatures will be out of whack?

8 Pack · 20 Oct 2017 at 12:30

Without delid I think possible yes with 5.1 or 5.2 binned cpu. But then they are delid anyway.

8 Pack · 20 Oct 2017 at 12:44

gavinh87 said:
Temps in games are about 60c, the frequency also drops in realbench/prime/aida/3dmark. It seems to drop in anything that uses more than 2 cores.
Remove the AVX offset and it will hold perfectly fine.

For sure I am not seeing this.

Silent_Scone · 20 Oct 2017 at 13:16

uCode perhaps? If this was an issue, it'd be more wide spread. Needs to be debugged properly but I think it'll be something blindingly obvious that's being overlooked here.

Rezz · 20 Oct 2017 at 13:29

906EA 70 is what my BIOS lists as microcode revision.

8 Pack · 20 Oct 2017 at 13:36

You guys with this avx clocking down issue do you have igpu disabled in bios??

Rezz · 20 Oct 2017 at 13:42

What setting should I be looking at for this with the Taichi?

IGPU Multi Monitor has a video controller show up in my device manager regardless of Enabled or Disabled

CyberScy · 20 Oct 2017 at 14:08

Great thread! I am so excited