9/11 15 Year Anniversary

RaohNS said:
Not sure what you are saying? You saying the building came down in the controlled demolition argument?

I find it odd that when a plane hit the building they did come straight down but when Superman slammed General Zod through multiple skyscrapers they all came down at angles.
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I assume a falling building would follow the path of least resistance.
When I play jenga the tower always falls to the side never inonitsself even the big ones you get in swanky pubs.
 
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RaohNS said:
What do you think it would take an ordinary media sheep to believe your version versus their own?

Its interesting, I think there is a hell of a lot about the day we are not being told about. There is a hell of a lot more that we find out around the incident but nothing concrete that says: We planned this and this is what we did.

If we ever find the Operation XX file fair enough. But until then, I think anyone not keeping an open mind about serious circumstantial evidence is very naïve indeed.

I'm quite ambivalent and switch between a combination of the "narrative" and the "that doesn't sound right".

I read somewhere that only three very high rise skyscraper type structures collapsed due to fire damage and all were on 9/11. How true that is I don't know, but I'm sure a google search of either persuasion would be incorrect.
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All I know and even to this day I remember very well my thoughts........

We where working in the passport office when the 1st plane hit, it went a little crazy and then the second plane hit.

Security went nuts and we were sent home.

I got home and was back living with my mum at the time, but had a 32inch CRT at the bottom of the bed.

I watched how the buildings burnt and thought bloody hell hope not too many people have died.

Then when the buildings fell at free fall speed, NO LIE!, in my head I thought wtf how is that even possible. No my thought the top of the building should have toppled down leaving the lower part intact.

It hit the top not the bottom how is this possible if the bottom is heavier than the top?

It should have bent over at the top were the most intense fire was to buckle the steel.

How did it go straight down, its ****ing impossible and we all know it but hey ho.



I will never for get that day ever.
 
itchy said:
Then when the buildings fell at free fall speed, NO LIE!, in my head I thought wtf how is that even possible. No my thought the top of the building should have toppled down leaving the lower part intact.
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You need to watch some proper building engineering videos of how it happened because they were unique to everything else.
It is very straight forward.
 
Can we please keep this thread on topic.

If anyone wishes to discus conspiracy theories please start your own thread

Further off topic posts will be deleted.


Back on topic.
I remember watching the news at home as I was waiting for my uncle to arrive with his PC that needed fixing.
I think I was posting on the forum as the second plane hit, then when the first tower fell I was opening the machine up.

RIP to those that died, and those that are almost certainly going to die due to the toxic mix of materials in the dust cloud (a subject that is possibly worthy of discussion in another thread given the attempts to hide the risks, and the number of people that will die of illnesses related to it).
 
danoliver1 said:
Was wtc 7 unique as well? (Serious question)
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One last off topic post for this thread.
Pretty much, massive damage to an unusual building design (built around an existing structure) which the fire service decided to stop even attempting to contain the fire due to the risks and the losses already sustained.

Pretty much any building will fall fall if there is a bad enough fire that is left uncontrolled, even buildings made largely of stone or concrete, let alone ones that have materials that lose strength when heated to temperatures that are routinely reached in house and office fires (most buildings are rated to survive an uncontrolled fire for X minutes).
 
^ Dammit I had a pressing question for you but don't want to continue off topic :o

Anyway I believe on every anniversary of 9/11, the terrorists succeed again.

When OcUK used to get shut down on 9/11, I used to think damn we've been beaten again.

Yes a lot of lives got cut short that day, but to me, the lives that got cut short on 9/11 are equal to me as any innocent life that has ever been cut short on any day in human history.

To limit my scope of grief/emotion into one particular day in human history and due to the actions of a few select individuals makes me feel uncomfortable because that was the aim of the terrorists.
 
It's incredible how fast time goes by. I remember watching it at work after the first plane hit. Someone sent me a picture of it and no-one believed me until we turned the TV on. I then saw the second plane hit and the buildings collapse.

The world really hasn't been the same since.
 
Such a shame America carpet bombed and destroyed Iraq for no reason whatsoever and killed 200,000 innocent people because of this. It still puzzles me to this day how most of the terrorists were from Saudi Arabia and yet they obliterated Iraq ...


Plus didn't they find a plane engine 3 blocks away that didn't come off any of the planes that hit the towers? I'm sure the engine was identified as from an early 1970's aircraft ....

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I remember coming home from school and watching the aftermath.

About a year ago I went back and watched some videos of the event. It really is brutally sad and disturbing... And makes me feel very angry.
 
balky12 said:
I do love conspiracy theorists. Most theories I could pick apart but I'm bored with it all now. Steel don't melt, buildings don't fall like that, no plane debris, blah blah blah.

15 years after the fact and not on piece of credible evidence exists. No white knight leaking details, no hacks uncovering the 'cover up'. The hundreds if not thousands of people that would have been involved in such a plot and nothing. Zilch.

Tell one other person that you're cheating on your wife and you can guarantee she will know by the next day. Secrets don't exist nowadays if more than one person knows.
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Fifteen years of watching the US Government failing to organise a drinking session in a brewery leads me to believe there's no way they could have organised such a complex 'inside job' and kept it quiet.
 
I might sound disrespectful but i have only just watched a 2 hour long program last night about 9/11 and when the plane just hit the first tower.

Don't get me wrong,i have watched small parts about it but i was engrossed in the 2 hour special last night which just focused on the videos that people recorded of the day.

Found it pretty disturbing and upsetting and that's why i probably haven't watched anything about it,seeing someone fall to there death is very haunting !
 
We were in Malta at the time. Was early evening, I'd just come out of the shower and turned on the tv and there it was. Never experienced an atmosphere like that in a restaurant before, we could have been at a wake.

The flight back home wasn't a pleasant experience either. Our world has never been the same since.
 
I went to NYC and visited ground zero late last year. The museum that they've built on the site is one of the most surreal places I've been, truly horrible :(

Remember being glued to the TV and watching the 2nd plane hit, thinking it was a "replay" of the first.
 
Whats horrible about it? Is it just the evidence of the level of destruction and loss or is it a bit gaudy?
 
Terminal_Boy said:
Fifteen years of watching the US Government failing to organise a drinking session in a brewery leads me to believe there's no way they could have organised such a complex 'inside job' and kept it quiet.
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Absolutely this!!!!

You can argue anything till your blue in the face. The fact is, the buildings weren't designed to cope with a plane flying into them.....and lol at government cover up. They can't keep anything secret these days.

Watching the news when the second plane hit still sends shivers down my spine. That's when the world collectively knew it was a terrorist attack.
 
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