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I am also in the Rog Swift club and am tempted to do the same thing but what screen would you go for? The Swift is so bloody good for gaming . . .
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970's having performance issues using 4GB Vram - Nvidia investigating
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I am also in the Rog Swift club and am tempted to do the same thing but what screen would you go for? The Swift is so bloody good for gaming . . .
Soldato
Probably best wait for things to settle down with Freesync, i'm guessing we'll see even better pricing soon enough.
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I am slightly confused why the last few months since the 970 release everyone has been singing it praises, now all of a sudden we have stuttering all over the place? Its quite the roller-coaster and demonstrates how consumers are just an iron filing drawn to a magnet, the magnet being the drama!
If I was a psychologist or marketing guru I could probably draw some interesting data from this. As I'm not I'll leave it up to nvidia, AMD and OCUk who I'm sure are gathering great, interesting, and lucrative consumer information.
If I was a psychologist or marketing guru I could probably draw some interesting data from this. As I'm not I'll leave it up to nvidia, AMD and OCUk who I'm sure are gathering great, interesting, and lucrative consumer information.
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Soldato
On the Nvidia forum thread someone said MSI have point blank refused to refund anyone.
Soldato
Don't want to **** on your parade bud, but as a swift owner and stuttering in games elimination obsessive, gsync is not a magic bullet by any means.
SLI and gsync together actually causes stuttering/ unsmooth issues in a few games. Note I said a few. I'm a huge fan of the swift and gsync, for most of my games.
But, there is no way in the world that gsync can eliminate stutter caused by a graphics card exceeding VRAM limit, or an engine that is just plain ****, and well known for stutters - step up most games that use unreal engine 3 and ANY ubisoft game of the last 3 years! Fact me do.
Very true, even Gregster on here reported having issues with Gsync and sli and stuttering..
Soldato
Mostly because newer games are starting to show the 970's miss-sold shortcomings.
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The 290x 8GB in particular is starting to look a very attractive option. I wonder if AMD will also throw in some more games too?
it would be awesome if they did
even though the price drops are nice it would be best to wait out on the 380x which is coming around march/april time and has the very nice HMB vram.
Really want to see what the AMD fluid motion feature is like when watching movies. One of my mates said it looks awesome but this little 280 doesn't support it
Soldato
I can only speculate from what I play and what I have tested. I know no amount of trickery will fix ubisoft more bugs than Africa games.
Soldato
Such as?
Most of the reports are misinformed people running over the frame buffer, using 3rd party tools that aren't correctly reading memory usage.
It's the same card it was 5 months ago, people are flaming stupid. They have a right to be angry, reviewers were not given the correct specifications, most likely to avoid confusion (technically still a *4GB card), but that doesn't stop people from completely misinterpreting what is happening.
All of the examples people keep harping on about are easily replicated on my 980s. It's a combination of a few things, one of which is probably people upgrading from GK104 cards, expecting 4GB to take them to the moon and back. Which simply isn't the case these days.
In short, yes Nvidia most likely deliberately misinterpreted the memory sub system, no, the overall impact is yet to be verified to be a problem at all - which means the likely overhead of the L2 cache is minimal. Yes, you can be angry and entitled to get your money back, no it's not a huge problem using the second memory pool, people just keep using examples where 4GB buffer is not enough.
If there is a sense of entitlement, maybe you'd have been better off buying the faster card without any deliberate neutering in the first place, arguably.
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Please demonstrate these shortcomings with facts and figures, if you cant please step away and stop talking out of your ***
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Soldato
I was wondering about that, makes me even less enthusiastic about switching to even 1440p nevermind 4k.. Those problems running multiple cards have been ongoing, wonder if they will ever find out how to fix them at all.
Absolutely disgraceful, thats MSI off my list for my new build.
Excellent summary of the situation.
NVIDIA will wriggle like a worm on a fishing hook (while hoping that it doesn't end up in court).
OCUK will accept returns, which is good, but they probably know that customers have been misled (by NVIDIA), and if that can be proved in court those customers will have a legal right to return their cards for repair, replacement or refund.
Knowing what I know now, I shall not be buying a GTX970 (unless the price is really right). The risk of coil whine and the fact that NVIDIA haven't done the right thing (yet), suggests that my ~£300 might wait a few months to see what happens next.
Soldato
Day light even at 1080p is going over the 3.5 threshold from what I have seen?
Soldato
And the performance impact has been compared with 980s average / minimum and frame times?
LOL. C U in court M8. Let's be realistic
lol they can't renable the L2 cache, it's defective, that's why it got designated as a 970 in the first instance
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I keep hearing Dying Light is the one, but no one gives me a key, how am I meant to test 970SLI@1440p if I cant play it /sigh
Then again TotalBuscuit's port report of 'Dying Light' just about managed 60FPS on SLI 980's@1080p so I'm not sure that is the best benchmark for the doom of the 970!!! Also the game does not fully support SLI 'yet'.
So much FUD and absolute rubbish in this thread, I really hope all of the people going on and demanding refunds are below 20 years old, if not, the human race is doomed!! Then again if they are, we are doomed anyway
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you mean that single threaded unoptimised mess Dying Light?
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Hi Gibbo , i appreciate you are a busy man , was just wondering if you could reply to my my earlier post a few pages back (#4609) . Cheers
Never played Day light but the new Dying Light also uses bang on 3.5GB at 1080P @ max settings. I suspect it will use more on the 980 or 290X since they are not restricted by the drivers.
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