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970's having performance issues using 4GB Vram - Nvidia investigating

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triss said:
Tempting to agree and say they are only worth £30 each second hand ,So shall we say £60 for the pair of yours mal i'll take those dodgy cards off your hands :)

Really for most buyers the cards value is the same is was last week , and a good 75%+ of buyers wont ever know about this issue
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4K Asus PB287Q + 2 Galax GTX970 EXOCs
£150 would be a reasonable price for me to let them go :P
 
Final8y said:
If the card had explicitly documented 3.5GB+512MB then i would have no issue as people knew what they were buying so could not complain if the 3.5GB+512MB became an issue.
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Yep and would have prob bought the 980 instead based on that information.
 
Gibbo said:
Sales stats as I can now see for today, more 970's sold today than last Wednesday with 2 hours still left. I can tell you for a fact if at here OcUK the enthusiast etailor is seeing no drop off, then your run of the mill resellers who are not specialist most certainly won't have any decline in sales. I got information from our European HQ and sales are up on last week. So any drop of is minimal and if any company was gonna notice a drop, it would hit OcUK harder due to our specialist nature.

Its not hurting sales that much if at all, because the 970's performance is still stellar. :)
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Good to see the nerd rage is not affecting sales but I thought as much, having skimmed many pages of this thread I found nothing that would deter me from buying a 970 either. Cracking card. :cool:
 
If I was in the market for 1440P or under gaming and I had budgeted for a decent card in the £300 region, I would buy a 970 knowing what I know. If I was going for higher than 1440P (4K for instance), I would be looking at the 8GB 290X or the Titan Black.
 
Locky said:
No I would have bought the 980's for a fact.. and those who know me know this to be the truth.

I nearly did but the 970 with the advertised specs looked the better deal and turned out not to be.
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Same for me. The 970s were easy to software overclock so I purchased two for SLI. Seemed silly to buy two 980s when the articles made it clear that the performance dif was minor.

However, now the newer games are out the 970s are tanking at high vram usage. You cant even use the thing without nerfing the settings to an extent that you may as well just have a single card.

TBH they should have just marketed it as a 3.5gb card and disabled the last .5 as at least then it would be stable and not so erratic.

Glad this has come out as the performance hit was confusing.
 
Gregster said:
If I was in the market for 1440P or under gaming and I had budgeted for a decent card in the £300 region, I would buy a 970 knowing what I know. If I was going for higher than 1440P (4K for instance), I would be looking at the 8GB 290X or the Titan Black.
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Get out of it, you would never consider an AMD card, who you trying to kid! :p you would look , i'll give you that lol
 
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Wizzfizz said:
Get out of it, you would never consider an AMD card, who you trying to kid! :p you would look I'd give you that lol
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I would though. As I water cool, I would have no probs with heat and they are nice cards at a nice price in fairness. The 970 is still a great card, as it was before all this came about. I honestly would buy one (or 2) if I was in the market at that price range. This VRAM issue started as a snowball and someone pushed it down the mountain.... Massive over reaction.
 
triss said:
Tempting to agree and say they are only worth £30 each second hand ,So shall we say £60 for the pair of yours mal i'll take those dodgy cards off your hands :)

Really for most buyers the cards value is the same is was last week , and a good 75%+ of buyers wont ever know about this issue
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i dont know about that, i'd never buy a top of the range GPU without researching loads first, because you also need to find out about all the other gear you need too, it is impossible to build a gaming rig yourself without researching loads, it takes monthsbut this is different if you're buying a gaming rig ready assembled......so yea you're partially right

in addition, i know nobody that games via pc that isn't a Tech Geek already, you dont stumble blindly into a GTX 970, it's far too expensive for that, you research online first and then you'll notice its faults

finally, any one that is going to buy a 970 could also be looking for an upgrade from a previous card, so will already be knowledgeable, because i've seen this on these threads already and guess what, they're switching to AMD
 
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Gregster said:
I would though. As I water cool, I would have no probs with heat and they are nice cards at a nice price in fairness. The 970 is still a great card, as it was before all this came about. I honestly would buy one (or 2) if I was in the market at that price range. This VRAM issue started as a snowball and someone pushed it down the mountain.... Massive over reaction.
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Give over lol, you not kidding me :D
 
I have been watching the whole 970 "scandal" for a while and have just wasted hours of my life reading this thread.

I have 980s, so I guess my opinion isn't worth much but...

It's pretty crappy that nVidia lied/made a mistake. They need to sort that for the future. They should do some sort of goodwill gesture.

But it doesn't change my opinion on the 970. The benchmarks we've seen since release are still valid. The card is every bit as good as it was. It's still £150 cheaper than a 980. A 980 probably doesn't give an extra £150's worth of performance.

Certainly won't stop me recommending the 970 to friends.
 
rtho782 said:
But it doesn't change my opinion on the 970. The benchmarks we've seen since release are still valid. The card is every bit as good as it was. It's still £150 cheaper than a 980. A 980 probably doesn't give an extra £150's worth of performance.

Certainly won't stop me recommending the 970 to friends.
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When the 970 launched the consoles had literally just released so we were still running games originally designed for the Xbox 360.

Games now are starting to eat VRAM far more than those that were used to test the 970 at launch. So to say it's as good now as it was then is not true because times are changing.

If you mean it's the same as when it was launched then? then yeah, I agree. But to say that it's as good at running the very latest games as it was at running games that were around at its launch then I don't agree at all.

If we knew then what we know now the 970 launch would have been an epic fail, with people saying that it's basically not the card it is supposed to be.
 
Gregster said:
I would though. As I water cool, I would have no probs with heat and they are nice cards at a nice price in fairness. The 970 is still a great card, as it was before all this came about. I honestly would buy one (or 2) if I was in the market at that price range. This VRAM issue started as a snowball and someone pushed it down the mountain.... Massive over reaction.
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you can have mine for 150 quid each, if this refund fails :cool: it would've been 100 quid each but that guy called me an idiot for selling them so cheap............. sorry about that :D:D
 
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