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Just saw the film and won free Nandos food 
Enjoyable film.
Enjoyable film.
A Harry Potter thread.
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Went to the BFI IMAX today in 3D, absolutely loved the film perfect send off to the films, yes not 100% accurate to the books but you have to accept they couldn't be identical.
Once the 3pm showing finished I went out the exit, back in through the entrance and watched it again, I don't usually do that but it was the end of an era so seemed worthwhile
3D is really draining to watch after a while though, I'll be glad to watch it on 2D BluRay.
Once the 3pm showing finished I went out the exit, back in through the entrance and watched it again, I don't usually do that but it was the end of an era so seemed worthwhile
3D is really draining to watch after a while though, I'll be glad to watch it on 2D BluRay.
Ok some bits i've been thinking about. Obviously, spoilers abound.
I think, overall, i liked it. The few parts that were underwhelming we're easily overshadowed by the many parts that were breathtaking or emotional. That sounds kinda gay, but whoever you are, you cannot deny the sheer scale of the movie.
Some parts i disliked:
It is easy to see why the film was split in to two. The initial reaction of profiteering is immediately retracted. It never would have worked in a single 2 hour sitting. However, some parts still felt a little rushed. Perhaps we could have squeezed a little more into the first part.
In the final showdown, I didn't like that the final seconds of the fight were conducted far away from everyone else. With the book, the most emotional part was Harry's hidden shield charms and his finally revealing himself after Molly wipes out Bellatrix and Voldemort goes mental. I think that after 7 years, Harry deserves to be seen fighting Voldemort. Also, in the book his speech during this was very powerful and would have trasnferred very well.
Parts i liked:
In the final showdown, i can appreciate why they made the changes. You have to make things more exciting for movies. One touch I did like was that Voldemort and Harry physically punched each other a few times. It really increased the feeling of complete desperation on both sides. I just wish it could have included the above.
Crabbe's part in the room of requirement. It nice that this guy finally got a chance to act. His first use of Avada Kedavra then the cursed fire shows he really meant business.
Alan Rickman. FINALLY. He gets a chance to show that he's an actor and not just a wooden face. He plays Snape excellently in all films, but crap that guy can be emotional.
Fenrir Greyback and Lavender Brown. Hahahaha. I love that they wrote this in. She was undoubtedly the worst actor in the entire series. Why she played the etirety of Half Blood Prince like she was drunk i have no idea.
The only other part that i can remember right now is just the general ending. I really, intensely disliked Rowling's ending to the books. Not just the epilogue, but the whole shebang. It's too sudden, you don't see any rewards or consequences, no reactions, no rebuilding or betterment or recognition. It's just over. Given this the end of the films was always going to be a little dissapointing, but I might be one of the few that actually likes the film's epilogue. They could have used Adult actors but by using these guys they've made it much more fun. I think that's important, as film 1 is obviously fun, then they get progressively darker. Sticking that in just kinda lightens the mood a little. We know it's silly, but it is a British movie after all. It has to be a little silly.
I think, overall, i liked it. The few parts that were underwhelming we're easily overshadowed by the many parts that were breathtaking or emotional. That sounds kinda gay, but whoever you are, you cannot deny the sheer scale of the movie.
Some parts i disliked:
It is easy to see why the film was split in to two. The initial reaction of profiteering is immediately retracted. It never would have worked in a single 2 hour sitting. However, some parts still felt a little rushed. Perhaps we could have squeezed a little more into the first part.
In the final showdown, I didn't like that the final seconds of the fight were conducted far away from everyone else. With the book, the most emotional part was Harry's hidden shield charms and his finally revealing himself after Molly wipes out Bellatrix and Voldemort goes mental. I think that after 7 years, Harry deserves to be seen fighting Voldemort. Also, in the book his speech during this was very powerful and would have trasnferred very well.
Parts i liked:
In the final showdown, i can appreciate why they made the changes. You have to make things more exciting for movies. One touch I did like was that Voldemort and Harry physically punched each other a few times. It really increased the feeling of complete desperation on both sides. I just wish it could have included the above.
Crabbe's part in the room of requirement. It nice that this guy finally got a chance to act. His first use of Avada Kedavra then the cursed fire shows he really meant business.
Alan Rickman. FINALLY. He gets a chance to show that he's an actor and not just a wooden face. He plays Snape excellently in all films, but crap that guy can be emotional.
Fenrir Greyback and Lavender Brown. Hahahaha. I love that they wrote this in. She was undoubtedly the worst actor in the entire series. Why she played the etirety of Half Blood Prince like she was drunk i have no idea.
The only other part that i can remember right now is just the general ending. I really, intensely disliked Rowling's ending to the books. Not just the epilogue, but the whole shebang. It's too sudden, you don't see any rewards or consequences, no reactions, no rebuilding or betterment or recognition. It's just over. Given this the end of the films was always going to be a little dissapointing, but I might be one of the few that actually likes the film's epilogue. They could have used Adult actors but by using these guys they've made it much more fun. I think that's important, as film 1 is obviously fun, then they get progressively darker. Sticking that in just kinda lightens the mood a little. We know it's silly, but it is a British movie after all. It has to be a little silly.
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saw this last night with a few people. my god the acting is terrible.
Bit of a spoiler below I guess but if you're reading this thread then tough!
The whole cinema burst out laughing in the 19years later scenes when we saw them, they made hardly any effort whatsoever into making them look older, haha.
The whole cinema burst out laughing in the 19years later scenes when we saw them, they made hardly any effort whatsoever into making them look older, haha.
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I totally agree with this point. Went to see it last night at IMAX and have loved both the book and film series - I was most looking forward to seeing them circling each other, Harry taunting Voldemort, everyone seeing him die - I think it went with a whimper. I HATE that Harry had to explain to Hermione afterwards why the Elder wand didn't work for Voldemort - that was a brilliant part in Harry's speech in the book and a real shock for Voldemort.
I enjoyed it, but afterwards I was a little, meh - not been like that with any of the recent HP films. Didn't live up to my expectations.
The whole cinema... as in every single person laughed, not one person didn't laugh... the funniest thing ever to be seen in a cinema?
Definitely NOT worth it. Awful.
The film was alright, but most of it felt rushed and certainly didn't feel like the last movie if you know what I mean.
I thought it was ace. I think you have to put the books aside a little when you watch the films (or most films of books for that matter) and enjoy it for what it is. Some of the kids acting is still rubbish (Ginny I'm looking at you - I completely fail to find that relationship interesting in the films but it is well written in the books). All in all it was great.
By ignoring this scene as was in the book they completely managed to dismiss as unimportant the entire story and reasoning (the sacrifice for love) behind Harry's survival and Voldemort's downfall, failing to explain (and even show any of) to the audience that it was Harry's sacrifice that made Voldemort harmless was as big an error as they could have made, it's akin to remaking the Starwars films and excluding the discovery that Vader was Luke's father.
My thoughts.
Okay, as you all know (unless you're new to this and haven't seen me talk about Harry Potter before, I'm a HUGEMASSIVE fan of the books and very "meh" about the films)
Right;
I enjoyed the look of the film, I think the first two films were good but lacked a atmosphere and a feeling of being alive, this was adjusted in the third film with a much better director who understood the role that an atmosphere plays in a film, they've gotten darker and darker and visually better and better. So this looked brilliant, the sets, the costumes and the visual feel you got were really good. It's just a massive shame the same couldn't be said about the content.
I've felt that the films have all been more or less rushed and I've been of the opinion they've not been "flushed out" as much as they needed to be, there are too many plots missing and too much information and characters just left out. Dobby's reappearance is an interesting one, he's a fairly prominent character in the books but is left out of 6 of the 8 films and yet turns up and the audience is expected to care about him? Fans of the books might, fans of the films might be left confused about his importance to the characters.
Anyway I'm rambling.
Things crop up in this film that haven't really been explain properly due to very poor writing in previous films, Harry's relationship with Hewhomustnotbenamed isn't explained fully, he's full of hate and can't comprehend love and that jazz, was a massive part of the books. The fights and individual battles of other characters were downplayed, Bellatrix's death was nothing short of the definition of "meh", as was the final battle, I kind of understand having it out on the court yard for visual reasons, but it wasn't meant to be like that, it was close and everyone surrounded them to watch their final duel. Hewhomustnotbenamed was laid out in the Hall with the other dead, he didn't burn and turn to ash and float off in what was the most obvious "we'll do this for 3D reasons" scene you'll ever see.
I also thought the humour was hit and miss, it wasn't needed, why do we need a comic relief? This was a very serious last book and film, I don't think the audience need "laughter queues" instead banter between characters and the characters being themselves should have been enough, I wasn't convinced how Fred and George are being so serious (and the comic relief in the books) yet Kingsly and Lupin are having funnier lines?
Anyway, several things were taken away from the book and changed, due to previous films and what I've always considered a poor standard of writing on the whole. I'd go on all night analysing little points and I think I've probably written enough.
Anyway, I liked the scene where Harry was going to meet Hewhomustnotbenamed in the forest, I liked that, Even though I'm sure in the book he had his invisibility cloak, I liked the scene with Dumbledor even if it looked far too much like a conversation with God. All this despite Radcliffe's best effort to be a plank of wood though out.
I can't forgive the missing things and the changes that imho, detracted from the final film these might of been changed in previous films and in this. I was very underwhelmed.
I left feeling a mix of emotions, I've grown up reading these books, I still read them a few times a year, I love them, they're a massive part of my childhood, I got my first book at the end of the summer in '97 and basically haven't stopped reading them since and doubt I will. I've been ever so disappointed with the films, but they remain a guilty pleasure.
It's hard to go in with an open mind being such a big fan of the books. I do try, I enjoyed some parts and I thought Snape's part's were good, fantastic in fact, as was the acting from the majority of the older actors. Neville was good, finally came in to his own in this film.
Big blockbuster that cuts and changes its source material so much that it's detracted from the richness of the story, they should have stuck much close to the source material rather then going for the epic set pieces. Hewhomustnotbenamed V Harry at the end should have had fantastic speeches, moving and emotional fighting and proper duel to the death with everyone holding their breath over it. So let down by this.
It was still very emotional, as this film's end signalled the end of my unofficial childhood, still, got the books to re read and take me back to a better place.
Okay, as you all know (unless you're new to this and haven't seen me talk about Harry Potter before, I'm a HUGEMASSIVE fan of the books and very "meh" about the films)
Right;
I enjoyed the look of the film, I think the first two films were good but lacked a atmosphere and a feeling of being alive, this was adjusted in the third film with a much better director who understood the role that an atmosphere plays in a film, they've gotten darker and darker and visually better and better. So this looked brilliant, the sets, the costumes and the visual feel you got were really good. It's just a massive shame the same couldn't be said about the content.
I've felt that the films have all been more or less rushed and I've been of the opinion they've not been "flushed out" as much as they needed to be, there are too many plots missing and too much information and characters just left out. Dobby's reappearance is an interesting one, he's a fairly prominent character in the books but is left out of 6 of the 8 films and yet turns up and the audience is expected to care about him? Fans of the books might, fans of the films might be left confused about his importance to the characters.
Anyway I'm rambling.
Things crop up in this film that haven't really been explain properly due to very poor writing in previous films, Harry's relationship with Hewhomustnotbenamed isn't explained fully, he's full of hate and can't comprehend love and that jazz, was a massive part of the books. The fights and individual battles of other characters were downplayed, Bellatrix's death was nothing short of the definition of "meh", as was the final battle, I kind of understand having it out on the court yard for visual reasons, but it wasn't meant to be like that, it was close and everyone surrounded them to watch their final duel. Hewhomustnotbenamed was laid out in the Hall with the other dead, he didn't burn and turn to ash and float off in what was the most obvious "we'll do this for 3D reasons" scene you'll ever see.
I also thought the humour was hit and miss, it wasn't needed, why do we need a comic relief? This was a very serious last book and film, I don't think the audience need "laughter queues" instead banter between characters and the characters being themselves should have been enough, I wasn't convinced how Fred and George are being so serious (and the comic relief in the books) yet Kingsly and Lupin are having funnier lines?
Anyway, several things were taken away from the book and changed, due to previous films and what I've always considered a poor standard of writing on the whole. I'd go on all night analysing little points and I think I've probably written enough.
Anyway, I liked the scene where Harry was going to meet Hewhomustnotbenamed in the forest, I liked that, Even though I'm sure in the book he had his invisibility cloak, I liked the scene with Dumbledor even if it looked far too much like a conversation with God. All this despite Radcliffe's best effort to be a plank of wood though out.
I can't forgive the missing things and the changes that imho, detracted from the final film these might of been changed in previous films and in this. I was very underwhelmed.
I left feeling a mix of emotions, I've grown up reading these books, I still read them a few times a year, I love them, they're a massive part of my childhood, I got my first book at the end of the summer in '97 and basically haven't stopped reading them since and doubt I will. I've been ever so disappointed with the films, but they remain a guilty pleasure.
It's hard to go in with an open mind being such a big fan of the books. I do try, I enjoyed some parts and I thought Snape's part's were good, fantastic in fact, as was the acting from the majority of the older actors. Neville was good, finally came in to his own in this film.
Big blockbuster that cuts and changes its source material so much that it's detracted from the richness of the story, they should have stuck much close to the source material rather then going for the epic set pieces. Hewhomustnotbenamed V Harry at the end should have had fantastic speeches, moving and emotional fighting and proper duel to the death with everyone holding their breath over it. So let down by this.
It was still very emotional, as this film's end signalled the end of my unofficial childhood, still, got the books to re read and take me back to a better place.
SPOILER!
So Harry had to die to kill Voldermort's WHOREcrux within Harry.
So why did Harry come back alive? Surely he had to genuinely die for the WHOREcrux to be destroyed?
I am confused.
Also Tummy, the whole 'ZOMG IT CONTAINS LESS CONTENT THAN THE BOOK' argument just makes you look like a silly noob The film has been split into TWO parts and it still barely covers the depth of the novel. Why? It's simply not possible. They have to make huge cuts where necessary.
Good film, but not a touch on Lord of the Rings - Return of the King back in 2003.
So Harry had to die to kill Voldermort's WHOREcrux within Harry.
So why did Harry come back alive? Surely he had to genuinely die for the WHOREcrux to be destroyed?
I am confused.
Also Tummy, the whole 'ZOMG IT CONTAINS LESS CONTENT THAN THE BOOK' argument just makes you look like a silly noob
The film has been split into TWO parts and it still barely covers the depth of the novel. Why? It's simply not possible. They have to make huge cuts where necessary.Good film, but not a touch on Lord of the Rings - Return of the King back in 2003.
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