Abu Qatada

Being born in Britain should not (if it does) lead to automatic British citizenship.

It does create a loophole. Illegals get in, pop some kids out ASAP so when they finally get caught, they've created a much more delicate situation and are more likely to be allowed to stay. Or so it seems.
 
Being born in Britain should not (if it does) lead to automatic British citizenship.

It doesn't (not since 1983). However a child born in the UK to foreign nationals has the right to be treated in the same way as a child born to British nationals....the welfare of the child is considered of the primary concern by immigration services and border control.

However, being as Abu Qatada was given asylum and was settled in the UK when his Children were born (assuming they were born in the UK) then they have the right to a British Passport and are considered legal British Citizens.
 
It doesn't (not since 1983). However a child born in the UK to foreign nationals has the right to be treated in the same way as a child born to British nationals....the welfare of the child is considered of the primary concern by immigration services and border control.

However, being as Abu Qatada was given asylum and was settled in the UK when his Children were born (assuming they were born in the UK) then they have the right to a British Passport and are considered legal British Citizens.

They should have been told to apply for Jordanian citizenship imho.
 
It doesn't (not since 1983). However a child born in the UK to foreign nationals has the right to be treated in the same way as a child born to British nationals....the welfare of the child is considered of the primary concern by immigration services and border control.

However, being as Abu Qatada was given asylum and was settled in the UK when his Children were born (assuming they were born in the UK) then they have the right to a British Passport and are considered legal British Citizens.


He came here(1993 I think) with a forged United Arab Emirates passport. Then he was granted asylum and is permitted to remain for an initial period of four years


1995(about) issues a fatwa saying it is justified to both kill Muslims who renounce their faith and kill their families.
1999(about) A court in Jordan convicts Qatada, in his absence, of conspiracy to commit terrorist acts in the country.

The rest is history. He out stayed he welcome(he was allowed 4 years). So out with them all as most likely his kids will start killing here.
Oh and in 2001 Qatada goes into hiding as laws are passed allowing terror suspects to be detained without charge or trial.

His children born here have no rights to be a UK citizen as he out stayed his 4 year period.
 
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His children born here have no rights to be a UK citizen as he out stayed his 4 year period.

The law however states differently. They are UK citizens and where exactly are you going to deport them to? They have no other citizenship. They are British, they have committed no crime and luckily we live in a society that doesn't punish children because their parents break the law.
 
So you would punish them for something their father done?

How is it a punishment? These people are not ethnic Britons, so it's not as though they are being refused citizenship in their homeland. I'm not saying they should be deported, but I don't see why they should become British citizens and attain rights to vote and claim benefits.
 
How is it a punishment? These people are not ethnic Britons, so it's not as though they are being refused citizenship in their homeland. I'm not saying they should be deported, but I don't see why they should become British citizens and attain rights to vote and claim benefits.


Ethnic Britons? Define "homeland"?

Are you suggesting that only "ethnic Britons" (whoever they are) should have rights?
 
How is it a punishment? These people are not ethnic Britons, so it's not as though they are being refused citizenship in their homeland. I'm not saying they should be deported, but I don't see why they should become British citizens and attain rights to vote and claim benefits.

Was about to post a serious reply then I read 'Ethnic Britons' and 'homeland' in your latest post and can say nothing but LOL LOL LOL Any man who would deport a child born and raised in this country for crimes his or her father is accused of is clearly a sad waste of humanity.
 
The law however states differently. They are UK citizens and where exactly are you going to deport them to? They have no other citizenship. They are British, they have committed no crime and luckily we live in a society that doesn't punish children because their parents break the law.


If a person has no citizenship there are loads of places they could go i.e the USA.
Or those who was not born here(wife ect) can leave asap. If the children that was born here can either stay(on their own) or go with their mother.

As a tax payer I don't want my money going to the likes of them.
 
Ethnic Britons? Define "homeland"?

Are you suggesting that only "ethnic Britons" (whoever they are) should have rights?


Another thread castiel is trying to change it to what he wants to talk about. Funny he has not brought god in to it yet.
 
If a person has no citizenship there are loads of places they could go i.e the USA.
Or those who was not born here(wife ect) can leave asap. If the children that was born here can either stay(on their own) or go with their mother.

As a tax payer I don't want my money going to the likes of them.

Right and its very easy to go to USA and become a citizen is it??.

Honestly some of the comments in here regarding his brood are cringeworthy at best. Why should the kids be punished for something that their father has done??. What if they are good law abiding citizens and just go about their daily lives without as much as a moan or groan??.

For the record i dont know if his kids are law abiding or whether they have been found to be terrorists in the making.
 
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