Acer XB270HU - Worlds First IPS, 1440p, 144hz, Gsync

texxx74 said:
Exactly, it really puts me off from buying now. If most B Grade monitors are returns, than the numbers are quite worrying. 8 x Asus ROGs, 7 x 34"AOCs, 10+ 34" LGs:eek:
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I think i read in another thread that OCUK sell about £1m worth of monitors a month so that return rate might actually be quite small.
 
I suppose that's the dilemma in that the most popular monitor will always have a more returns. Plus, I suspect the return rate will be higher for more expensive monitors as people are likely to be more fussy about any issues which they might not care about on a £100 monitor
 
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silvagti said:
I suppose that's the dilemma in that the most popular monitor will always have a more returns. Plus, I suspect the return rate will be higher for more expensive monitors as people are likely to be more fussy about any issues which they might not care about on a £100 monitor
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You are right, but when you cast the net wide, you see that the number of people with serious bleed/glow issues on the LG panels is very significant. It's quite shocking when you see the state of some screens, and makes you wonder how on earth they even left the factory like that. No way never should this be occurring as often as it appears to be on a £700+ product... even if the return % isn't that great, it's clear this is not a rare occurrence.
 
Baddass would you help me out? Im in a pickle and its got so bad im confused and just cannot play games with mouse anymoe :(

You know i have the Eizo with 240hz and there is literally no blur i can pick up. But i can pick up my mouse moving a bit odd and im very unhappy about it. Turning off ULMB does make it better but then i have a lot of blur and i am only hiding the problem. I canot measure this but it looks just like 50% of the panel is blurring.


I think might move and see if more fps helps me, But how does 240hz Eizo compare to this Acer? I do not think we are ready yet for ULMB because it shows up too many flaws on mice. BUt i do not want the blur either and 144hz (extra 24fps) would help me out a bit and Ultrawide is obviously going to be beautiful so im hoping i can maybe buy the 34" version.


But its the blurring that is doing my head in... Fine with a controller but for me not with a mouse anymore. Any chance you could do a compare of the blur levels of 240hz versus the Acer at 144hz with OD normal? Is it really noticeable because you talk in the review about some blurring being more at the bottom of the panel? On my Eizo it seems like there is literally 0% blur. I know the above sounds a bit silly but thats just the nature of my vision and my sensitivity to things on the screen.
 
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UK price is flat out ridiculous on this.

Lowest price in EU is likely to be ~£170 less.

I'm not sure the price gouging is entirely on the side of UK retailers, as some other Acer products seem a lot more expensive here, albeit not as bad as this.

For those that aren't determined to get something with G-Synch, I strongly suggest you wait to see how the pricing of the ASUS 144hz IPS product is. There isn't such a big disparity with them usually.
 
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pmc25 said:
UK price is flat out ridiculous on this.

Lowest price in EU is likely to be ~£170 less.

I'm not sure the price gouging is entirely on the side of UK retailers, as some other Acer products seem a lot more expensive here, albeit not as bad as this.

For those that aren't determined to get something with G-Synch, I strongly suggest you wait to see how the pricing of the ASUS 144hz IPS product is. There isn't such a big disparity with them usually.
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The MG279Q? I think ill go for that one instead, it physically looks a lot cooler and should be a fair bit cheaper! :)
 
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Rofflay said:
Baddass would you help me out? Im in a pickle and its got so bad im confused and just cannot play games with mouse anymoe :(

You know i have the Eizo with 240hz and there is literally no blur i can pick up. But i can pick up my mouse moving a bit odd and im very unhappy about it. Turning off ULMB does make it better but then i have a lot of blur and i am only hiding the problem. I canot measure this but it looks just like 50% of the panel is blurring.


I think might move and see if more fps helps me, But how does 240hz Eizo compare to this Acer? I do not think we are ready yet for ULMB because it shows up too many flaws on mice. BUt i do not want the blur either and 144hz (extra 24fps) would help me out a bit and Ultrawide is obviously going to be beautiful so im hoping i can maybe buy the 34" version.


But its the blurring that is doing my head in... Fine with a controller but for me not with a mouse anymore. Any chance you could do a compare of the blur levels of 240hz versus the Acer at 144hz with OD normal? Is it really noticeable because you talk in the review about some blurring being more at the bottom of the panel? On my Eizo it seems like there is literally 0% blur. I know the above sounds a bit silly but thats just the nature of my vision and my sensitivity to things on the screen.
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when you say problems with your mouse, are you talking about additional lag feel when Turbo 240 (blur reduction) is enabled? or is it something else? or is it tearing or stuttering related to running a high refresh rate (120Hz)? note that although they call it Turbo 240Hz, the screen is still only operating at 120Hz refresh rate.

Keep in mind that if you want to use the blur reduction feature (ULMB) on the XB270HU you are limited to a maximum of 100Hz refresh rate. so you will actually be running at a lower fps than on the Eizo.

in regards to "blurring" with blur reduction mode enabled, i'm more talking about strobe cross-talk. That's related to the timing of the strobe backlight and should be evident on ANY screen which uses it to reduce motion blur. if you run a test like this one full screen with blur mode turned on, you will see at some point on the screen some ghosting images behind the moving object. the UFO should always be easy to see, and far less blurry than when you turn blur mode off, but there will be some ghosting (which is the strobe cross talk) somewhere on the screen.

Famously, on the BenQ XL2720Z blur reduction mode by default the cross talk was in the middle of the screen, which some considered problematic for gaming since thats your main point of focus. have a look at this photo from the XL2720Z by default. at the top the image is very clear. by the middle there is some ghost image/cross talk, and it gets progressively worse to the bottom. That's why BenQ then updated the firmware to allow users to adjust the strobe timing, and therefore change the position of the strobe cross talk on the screen to suit the user. you cant eliminate it compeltely, but you can move where it is most noticeable.

I'm not sure how that looks on the Eizo FG2421, it's been ages since i've had that screen with me. on the Acer XB270HU the top is very clear. by the middle of the screen there is some low cross talk /ghosting (not quite as much as in that BenQ XL2720Z example), and by the bottom it is worse still. you can't adjust the strobe timing on the XB270HU though. but i wouldn't say it was a bad implementation. not perfect, but the central area is not too bad. worth maybe testing that on your Eizo to see where the cross talk manifests itself
 
The TFT Central review has me sold. Just a shame that the release dates seems to keep getting further and further away. :(

Actually looking forward to playing some older games like Crysis again. Should look absolutely fantastic with G-sync and the higher resolution/refresh rate..
 
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