Acer XB270HU - Worlds First IPS, 1440p, 144hz, Gsync

[ashmanuk67]

I really want this monitor. But my fear is what I have read from some on here that the monitor has the potential of getting worse with time.

My monitor (see sig) does have light bleed I will need to re-check if as bad as muleman59 (the better of the two photos) my point is that I don't think about BLB any more until this thread, I know when I first powerd up my monitor I was I bit gutted about the BLB but I knew ther was potential for it as that's the type of panel used so over time of using my monitor I kinda forgot or don't see the BLB anymore, But and a big but £700 you want a bit more perfection without the worries or griff of havering to send the dam thing back at.

 

[wunkley]

I don't have this particular monitor, but just to clear up some of the nonsense being spouted about IPS backlight bleed and excessive IPS glow being somehow 'normal' and to be 'expected' and therefore 'acceptable' - let's counteract it with some facts, evidence, and images.

Below is just one example. This photo is a Dell U2913WM on top which is an IPS panel, and the monitor below is an Eizo FG2421 which is a VA panel and is supposed to have the best blacks and contrast ratio going....



This image was taken by me in extreme conditions (very dark room at night), purposefully using a fairly crap camera phone which uses excessive iso settings in the dark, and makes things look 'worse than they are'.

As you can see, the Dell IPS on top has some very very minor IPS glow going on in the corners and little to arguably zero 'backlight bleed' along the edges. Remember this is an exaggerated picture, in a dark room. In normal everyday use, and dark gaming, it looks perfect.

Compare it to the Ezio below especially. Again, supposedly a great VA panel that suffers less from backlight bleed etc etc.

THE DELL - AN IPS - IS WHAT ALL IPS MONITORS CAN LOOK LIKE, AND SHOULD LOOK LIKE!

End of story. Acer can **** off.

 

[Legend]

I think IPS technology needs a major overhaul, or simply needs to die before we see an end to this. The glow issues in-particular seem inherent, and aren't going anywhere soon. Bleed is something else, and seems to be largely down to poor QC and panels which are fitted too tight within the bezels. A heavy combination of the two makes for an appalling gaming experience in a dimly lit room though, and utterly unacceptable at ANY price point, never-mind £700! Personally, I don't have much confidence in IPS anymore... it actually seems to be getting worse with every monitor release. The upcoming Acer 34" curved model, priced at £1K, won't be any better, and that's actually rather horrifying when you think about it. Until IPS is superseded by another technology that doesn't have these inherent faults, I suggest everyone straps in... it's going to be a bumpy road.

 

[Nexus18]

I wish more manufacturers would move to VA tbh, it seems to be the best of both TN and IPS imo, at least with the panel used in the samsung 34" 21.9 monitor anyway.

End of story. Acer can **** off.

 

[Cold_And_Miserable]

I think IPS technology needs a major overhaul, or simply needs to die before we see an end to this. The glow issues in-particular seem inherent, and aren't going anywhere soon. Bleed is something else, and seems to be largely down to poor QC and panels which are fitted too tight within the bezels.

LCD's are fundamentally flawed.
A-TW polarisers can improve the blacks on IPS panels but no consumer-grade monitors use them for unknown reasons. Samsung PLS is the least prone to BLB and IPS glow out of the 3 manufacturers of IPS panels.

You'll have to wait until Canon produces next generation SED display technology.

 

[WhiteHawk77]

I have to wonder if OLED displays are being delayed as much as possible because they would be too good so people wouldn't upgrade later. That's my conspiracy for the day anyway.

Back to the topic, I'm supposed to be contacted on Tuesday by Acer, first thing I'm going to ask is how the swap will work, if I have a chance to check what the new one looks like and decide which to keep then fine, but if they expect me to just hand over the current one for the new without seeing what the new is like then forget it, it'll be refund.

 

[Sylver123]

I have to wonder if OLED displays are being delayed as much as possible because they would be too good so people wouldn't upgrade later. That's my conspiracy for the day anyway.

Back to the topic, I'm supposed to be contacted on Tuesday by Acer, first thing I'm going to ask is how the swap will work, if I have a chance to check what the new one looks like and decide which to keep then fine, but if they expect me to just hand over the current one for the new without seeing what the new is like then forget it, it'll be refund.

Please let us know mate how you get on with the swap and if it they do test the replacement screen prior to them coming out or let you test the screen for same issues before they go away again.

 

[Leon Axel]

I have to wonder if OLED displays are being delayed as much as possible because they would be too good so people wouldn't upgrade later. That's my conspiracy for the day anyway.

Hah, that's a theory that I've thought of in the past.

 

[Legend]

If everyone refused to buy IPS monitors because of these issues, the problem would go away pretty quick. Prompt action to either fix it or introduce new technology would swiftly follow the resulting mass profit loss. Alas, this is but mere wishful thinking, yet it is the only motivation that would work unfortunately.

 

[LokiS]

If everyone refused to buy IPS monitors because of these issues, the problem would go away pretty quick. Prompt action to either fix it or introduce new technology would swiftly follow the resulting mass profit loss. Alas, this is but mere wishful thinking, yet it is the only motivation that would work unfortunately.

What IPS issues , back light bleed happens just the same on TN, VA panels, its simply poor quality manufacturing and bad quality control.

IPS glow is different and doesn't bother me personally, it can be fixed by using a polariser but they stopped using them for some reason. I remember reading LG were intending to bring some new models out with it again last year.

 

[SaintJimmy]

I'm also getting some backlight bleed issues.

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This is more like what it looks like as viewing in a darkish room:

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This is the IPS on my Asus g751jt:

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The Asus screen has some very minor backlight bleed and some IPS glow but all within acceptable amounts.

The Acer screen glows almost white in the bottom left and right corners covering quite a large area.

Under most situations I don't notice this but in darker situations (GTA V night, Star Citizen etc) it gets noticeable.

Not sure what to do with this as most of the time I don't notice it and I have zero dead/stuck pixels (looked like I had some dead pixels but this just turned out to be dirt). Apart from the backlight bleed, this screen performs brilliantly. Images look stunning and gaming performance is spot on.

I would go for the swap out service if they checking out the screens for defects before sending them out as I don't want to be stuck with a screen that more issues than this one.

Also I don't really want to return for a refund as there is nothing else like this out or on the way. I also need a second screen for work purposes so would mean spending money on a temporary monitor which is a bit of a waste.

 

[Legend]

What IPS issues

Have you read this thread? Not to mention every other IPS screen that's been released the past year, particularly the ultrawides. If IPS glow doesn't bother you then you haven't had a monitor that's suffered badly with it. IPS glow is unique to IPS, obviously. Bleed CAN happen on other screens, and does, but I've read far more complaints about IPS screens than any other... more so the high-end ones, probably because it is totally unacceptable above a certain price point.

 

[LokiS]

Have you read this thread? Not to mention every other IPS screen that's been released the past year, particularly the ultrawides. If IPS glow doesn't bother you then you haven't had a monitor that's suffered badly with it. IPS glow is unique to IPS, obviously. Bleed CAN happen on other screens, and does, but I've read far more complaints about IPS screens than any other... more so the high-end ones, probably because it is totally unacceptable above a certain price point.

No need to throw a hissy-fit . I've owned multiple ips monitors and ips glow has never bothered me, and are no more prone to back bleed then any other common tech as lcds are mostly back lit.

My Sony bravia VA TV suffers more side glow during dark scenes than my previous two IPS screen I've tested (aoc q2770pqu, BenQ GW2765HT). IPS isn't the only screen type that suffers from it. People here are not angry at IPS glow, they are angry at the poor bleed caused by pressure on the screen due to poor construction.

 

[HACO]

I'm also getting some backlight bleed issues.

Obligatory over exposed image:

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This is more like what it looks like as viewing in a darkish room:

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This is the IPS on my Asus g751jt:

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The Asus screen has some very minor backlight bleed and some IPS glow but all within acceptable amounts.

The Acer screen glows almost white in the bottom left and right corners covering quite a large area.

Under most situations I don't notice this but in darker situations (GTA V night, Star Citizen etc) it gets noticeable.

Not sure what to do with this as most of the time I don't notice it and I have zero dead/stuck pixels (looked like I had some dead pixels but this just turned out to be dirt). Apart from the backlight bleed, this screen performs brilliantly. Images look stunning and gaming performance is spot on.

I would go for the swap out service if they checking out the screens for defects before sending them out as I don't want to be stuck with a screen that more issues than this one.

Also I don't really want to return for a refund as there is nothing else like this out or on the way. I also need a second screen for work purposes so would mean spending money on a temporary monitor which is a bit of a waste.

Way too much. Return it.

 

[Legend]

No need to throw a hissy-fit . I've owned multiple ips monitors and ips glow has never bothered me, and are no more prone to back bleed then any other common tech as lcds are mostly back lit.

My Sony bravia VA TV suffers more side glow during dark scenes than my previous two IPS screen I've tested (aoc q2770pqu, BenQ GW2765HT). IPS isn't the only screen type that suffers from it. People here are not angry at IPS glow, they are angry at the poor bleed caused by pressure on the screen due to poor construction.

I don't know how you got a hissy fit from what I wrote. I was being quite factual. At the end of the day, there are countless people complaining about these high end (£500+) IPS screens that suffer terribly from bleed AND glow. The fact it's never bothered you is totally irrelevant, it just means you've been fortunate not to have a monitor suffer badly with it. I have had several IPS monitors myself, never had reason to complain about glow, until I bought an ultrawide and found it horrendous, so I promptly returned it. If you receive a monitor with bad IPS glow, you will be angry, trust me lol! Bad bleed is worse though, I agree.

LCD tech as a whole is far from perfect (some would even say rubbish). I've returned several expensive TV's as a result of DSE and cloudiness, which plagues many models, and yes, VA/TN panels can also suffer from bleed. But IPS seems to have got worse over the past year or so, in terms of glow and bleed. When you cast the net wider and read other forums/reviews, this becomes quite apparent. It's lazy manufacturing most likely, and poor QC as many examples clearly shouldn't even be leaving the factory in the condition they're in. I don't think the technology has suddenly gone rotten overnight, there's more to it.

It goes without saying that not EVERY monitor suffers however, and there are many very happy IPS owners out there. I have been one myself in the past... but more and more of these high-end 'premium' screens are falling in to the 'unacceptable' category, and that's clearly not good for anyone.

 

[kirts]

Baddass, while I appreciate your point, your stating it as if you have sold all 260 monitors already, but its showing 10+ in stock, so for all we know, you have only actually sold 30 odd, and everyone is in this thread either happy or unhappy

14/260 is 5.38% failure rate, which isn't too bad considering its a cheap brand, and its a monitor and as such much harder to get it perfect.
If there were several people in here posting pics saying there was defect free, totally, then I would feel much happier about buying one, but not being able to see them, and as such not even knowing how likely or unlikely it is to get a good or bad one, I won't be considering this monitor at this point in time. Also glossy cheap plastic is horrible, and it would be replacing a brushed aluminium monitor so :/

Although I am only considering it because now it is exists, I don't want to have to wait longer lol, but I will most likely go with a more premium brand once they release them.

Given time, if everyone gets a replacement and most of them are all very good, then it will be good, and reflect well on you guys for sorting out the on site replacements. Or it might just be teething problems, and in a few months 99% of them will be fine once they have ironed out the kinks and told the factories to be more careful assembling them etc.

Count me for 15 out of 260. If they actually sold 260..which I am fairly sure they did not.

A lot of people cannot post (takes almost a week to have access) and a lot of people are simply lazy to post or don't know how to investigate the issues with the monitor or simply are not aware about this forum.

I had 6 stuck pixels which I managed to fix. At least 4 dead pixels (I got bored counting) and BLB (not severe but I can certainly see it though!).

Will I return it? Probably not..because I literally need to put my face on the screen in order to see the dead pixels and honestly.. dust seems to cover more than a dead pixel.

That said, I am not happy at all.

 

[dasimpse]

Whats the chances of later manufactured models to be better, or have the issues fixed? so annoyed. Want a really good 27 inch g sync to get. The rog swift is dropping in price. Should I go for that?

 

[ish1]

Well I just bought one despite the problems Some of you guys are having.
I will report back if it's good or not! Fingers crossed.

 

[dasimpse]

Well I just bought one despite the problems Some of you guys are having.
I will report back if it's good or not! Fingers crossed.

Fingers crossed for you and everyone who's purchased one to get it sorted in either a good quality one or a refund. All the reviews I've seen paint this monitor in such an amazing light. Would they cherry pick the units for review?

 

[titaniumx3]

I would still consider buying this monitor in the future if the issue was fixed or there was some sort of system in place to ensure you get a good one.