Afghanistan - 20 years on
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To be fair he's at Camp David which is as well connected to deal with the situation as if he were in the White House; it doesn't really matter where the US President is
Biden's been on holiday since his election campaign started, I'm sure he can read an autocue from where ever he is and get most of the words right
Soldato
You should read the thread.
Then you will see that Biden's holiday picture outed some important people.
A very grave mistake.
It was literally Trump's deal. A deal the gop are so immensely proud of, that they have taken it down from their website....
https://theweek.com/afghanistan-war...ting-trumps-historic-peace-agreement-with-the
Are you perhaps the person that can enlighten us as to what Biden could have done differently ?
Even with the same deal there are different ways to go about it, different strategies, etc. silly example but say on the way out equipping the ANA with top of the line tanks vs just some pickups. Biden just decided to hang them out to dry.
Soldato
Reading on the news this morning, i really feel sorry for all girls upto about the age of 30, as even the older ones whilst born under Taliban rule, would have been young enough to not be forced into marriage and would have had the opportunity to start their education. Then once the Taliban were removed from power they will have been of the age to continue their education where previously that wouldn't have been allowed.
Over the last 20 years they will have enjoyed freedoms, and a lot of them will have grown up only knowing that way of life. The article said that a load of the Taliban had stormed a university campus and basically told all the women there to put their Burqas on, and that they would no longer be continuing with their education and be forced to marry the Taliban fighters - one of them even said i'll marry four of you in a day. They're absolute ******* animals.
I just really cannot start to believe how that is possible. You'd typically expect a 50:50 ratio between boys and girls, which would mean a fairly sizable percentage of Afghani families will have young girls. Surely their fathers do not want to go back to Taliban rule where their daughters will not have any freedom to make her own life choices and instead be forced to marry someone she's never even met and then used and abused as her keeper sees fit.
Lol. Queue everyone saying "Stupid Biden, why is he spending so much on the afghan military and giving them top of the line equipment with our taxpayers money!".
If they are going to go to that expense they may as well have kept soldiers there.
Also, that still doesn't garauntee that the afghan army doesn't just capitulate. " OMG Biden admin spent billions on afghan army and they just surrendered anyway and now the taliban have top of the line US tanks!"
As I said before you are fantasising about some perfect scenario which doesn't exist.
Caporegime
Iranian support was an important part of the defeat of the Taliban first time round. They're not friends probably related to the Taliban being Sunni and Iran Shia.
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You mean this complete nonsense?
Oh dear. What a monumental **** up.
Just typical fake news stuff designed to get people who don't double check things to assume it's bad.
"Officially. The United States does not operate in Qatar"
Oh really? What's this then?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Udeid_Air_Base
It was merely an illustration that there are different ways to approach the same deal.
Can't see a single person just walking, that shows the absolute fear the Afghani people have.
Well, the pulling out certainly seems to be a complete disaster. Amazing how quickly the tables have turned.
Biden does ultimately have to take responsibility for the call, but so many of his harsh critics are so partisan I’d have a gut feeling that they’d be championing the move if it was a republic president that made the call.
To my mind, a bad move is a bad move whoever makes the call.
Biden does ultimately have to take responsibility for the call, but so many of his harsh critics are so partisan I’d have a gut feeling that they’d be championing the move if it was a republic president that made the call.
To my mind, a bad move is a bad move whoever makes the call.
Soldato
Just goes to show you know very little on what your on about.
Hint. It's all about the CIA. Please do your home work or live in the US for a few years.
Soldato
What, like the UK defence secretary Ben Wallace who called Trump's deal rotten to the core?
At the end of the day this is the culmination of a series of failures spanning multiple administrations which for quite a while has unfortunately had a feeling of inevitability that it was always going to end up in this level of cluster ****.
The whole situation is a sorry state of affairs.
I don't really know the full ins and outs of it. Or how 'good' it was recently. Or what people there really think.
But unless you're gonna stay there forever this was always gonna turn back to ****.
It's the culture. And this, I guess, was forced change. And that rarely works with culture.
It's horrible. But it is out of sight out of mind for us in West mostly.
I don't really know the full ins and outs of it. Or how 'good' it was recently. Or what people there really think.
But unless you're gonna stay there forever this was always gonna turn back to ****.
It's the culture. And this, I guess, was forced change. And that rarely works with culture.
It's horrible. But it is out of sight out of mind for us in West mostly.