Caporegime
So we can take £20 a week off the poorest people in the country, but give a murderous regime half a billion?
Seems about right.
Afghanistan - 20 years on
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Seems about right.
Soldato
Helping stabilise Afghanistan will probably save a decent chunk of money ultimately. Fewer refugees, for example.
Cutting £20/ week from the poorest shouldn't be used as a reason to cut elsewhere. But, also, I agree we shouldn't be cutting £20 from the poorest (Tories gonna Tory, I guess)
Soldato
It will go straight in to the pockets of the Taliban. and they will use it to buy weapons.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58241006
Obviously don't agree with giving the Taliban any money but no one is being deprived of £20 a week because there are masses of job vacancies
Caporegime
Yes because everybody is capable of work
Soldato
We will have to see. The Taliban are in an Interesting position right now. If they want to stay in power, they need to build a functional government and society. The US-lead invasion singularly failed to do that, with an awful lot more money invested.
I saw recently that of the 350,000-strong Afghan army, perhaps 200,000 of them were 'ghost soldiers. They didn't exist- the money was being siphoned off through corruption.
So, I guess we should remember where our starting point is here. It'll not be a smooth ride.
Caporegime
The majority of people who receive credits in the UK are in work.
Work more hours then. I used to have to watch what I spent down to the pound while working and never got a single penny from the government, get some overtime, get a few hours part time on a weekend, start your own little side business. Government isn't responsible for your income.
Caporegime
That's great. Now who is going to look after the children while they're working these extra hours?
Soldato
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The Tories swept into power with immigration and benefits scroungers as their main targets, and here we are over a decade later with the same perceived issues.
House bubble continues bubbling
The other parent, grandparents, siblings, aunties and uncles, friends, etc. You know, the people you knew could support you when you decided to have kids.
Silly comment. You do realise circumstances change right?
That's not most people though, most people just go through life making poor decisions.
Soldato
It feels counter-intuitive to both oppose immigration and to oppose support for people to have kids. Like, who is going to be tomorrow's worker?
I don't know what the Russians think they have. The Taliban dislike them just as much, maybe more because they didn't care how much collateral damage they did.
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It was 10k 48h ago. I wonder what it will be a month from now.
Man of Honour
Probably a different meaningless figure that's also made up for political reasons and also has little or no connection to the number of people the UK actually grants asylum to. As far as I can tell, the only point of the numbers being thrown out now is to try to swing as many voters as possible. Who's going to check the actual number a year from now, let alone further into the future? If anyone does, how many people will see the true number?
If we extrapolate the data 16 million
Soldato
US taking a huge PR and credibility hit. Reduces their influence on the region, and perhaps world, and opens the door for Russia and China to fill the void.