Afghanistan - 20 years on

[Terminal_Boy]

It's also from India

Russian-built Mi-35 “Hind E”. Purchased secondhand by India in Serbia or the Ukraine.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

All this stuff is the second rate export version.


So anyone interested has already got them, apaches are nearly 40 years old

The USA won't be leaving their own grade avionics about

Hence why I said hypothetical, because it’s not actually happening.

 

[deuse]

Can't rmeeber her name but rep senator on BBC this morning. She literally said Biden should have followed Trumps plan. She was told this is down to the day and date of Trumps plan. She then said nothing was set in stone and it was a framework of a deal. Lol
So we go them taking deon the deal made, to trumps deal was good if they did what his deal was to their was no deal just a framework. Pretty soon it'll be Pence never met the Taliban.

If you get her name please post.
I did search but couldn't find a ting about it.

 

[deuse]

All this stuff is the second rate export version.


So anyone interested has already got them, apaches are nearly 40 years old

The USA won't be leaving their own grade avionics about

Asked and answered.

 

[Minusorange]

Not really, it's more of a sledgehammer compared to the Apache's precision laser cutter.

Don't forget it can carry troops as well

Pentagon briefing if anyone interested

 

[deuse]

https://news.sky.com/story/afghanis...embassy-workers-from-kabul-continues-12385846

Live now

 

[Malevolence]

Don't forget it can carry troops as well

So can the Apache.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/marines-apache-helicopters/

 

[Tefal]

Russian-built Mi-35 “Hind E”. Purchased secondhand by India in Serbia or the Ukraine.

What i mean is its not left by the americans

 

[visibleman]

So can the Apache.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/marines-apache-helicopters/

Spoiler: Sod, that!

 

[RoboCod]

What would I rather face. A few vehicles or an apache heli?

If Call of Duty is your measure, then the gunship helicopter. Otherwise, men skilled with small arms, protected in armoured vehicles.

 

[Minusorange]

wow this briefing is as much a train wreck as the withdrawal lol

 

[arknor]

What would I rather face. A few vehicles or an apache heli?

the vehicles have to worry about IEDs whilst an Apache can kill you from as far as 5miles away.
The choice is kinda obvious ?
unless ground vehicles have air cover anyway like they would in reality

 

[Nasher]

Russian-built Mi-35 “Hind E”. Purchased secondhand by India in Serbia or the Ukraine.

Super vulnerable to modern handheld AA. The thick armour on them works against them.

Hinds worked great against the Taliban, until they didn't and they lost almost all of them.

 

[Begbie]

An Apache which take a serious amount of ground support to make operational.

Yes, most of the RAFs empolyment is mainteners. Aircraft are very complex. Even if they are working now, without the right training (years) they won't last long or certianly won't be to some sort of safety standards.

 

[Jono8]

They've had several months now

In which they have managed to improve things and get far more visas processed than before.

and Biden chose the date...

Biden pushed back the date, probably as far as he could reasonably get away with, without inciting retaliation from the Tabliban.

 

[Mr Badger]

In which they have managed to improve things and get far more visas processed than before.





Biden pushed back the date, probably as far as he could reasonably get away with, without inciting retaliation from the Tabliban.

Considering that the exit date was originally set for 1st May and was only pushed back to 31 August by Biden (who is known to be committed to getting out) you could be forgiven for thinking that neither the Afghans nor the governments of countries that had people in Afghanistan seem to have taken the idea of preparing in advance for the US withdrawal with sufficient urgency.

 

[Jono8]

Considering that the exit date was originally set for 1st May and was only pushed back to 31 August by Biden (who is known to be committed to getting out) you could be forgiven for thinking that neither the Afghans nor the governments of countries that had people in Afghanistan seem to have taken the idea of preparing in advance for the US withdrawal with sufficient urgency.

Indeed.

I think no one expected the Taliban to move in and take everything so soon . They probably all thought they would wait until the full US withdrawal was complete .

 

[dowie]

Biden pushed back the date, probably as far as he could reasonably get away with, without inciting retaliation from the Tabliban.

LOL so not only was the result the best they likely could have gotten but Biden's crystal ball magically gave him the furthest out date without inciting retaliation from the Taliban... who were fighting with no deal with the Afghan government anyway...

 

[Jono8]

LOL so not only was the result the best they likely could have gotten but Biden's crystal ball magically gave him the furthest out date without inciting retaliation from the Taliban... who were fighting with no deal with the Afghan government anyway...

Funny that you mention crystal balls...

 

[ianh]

ianh - yes you could FARP somewhere but where to after that? nearest is gulf states so too far, even best case would be FARP at furthest south possible to a carrier off the Pakistan coast is till too far I think. Without a google I think we don't have friendly airfields north any more

The suggestion was only to FARP to an area in the middle of nowhere where you can then bomb them to deny them, which you can't do at Kabul Airport, because as you pointed out, they're never leaving intact. Of course the US could temporarily re-take an airfield somewhere for the day+ it'd take to strip them down for air transport on a C-17 but the stripping down of Apaches for air transport won't happen at Kabul I would suggest.