Alcohol and ability to consent

Actually ... as dumb as ^ idea is (LOL), a periodic app with the users location, would use hardly any battery power and could be uploded to a site, or lat/longs on an email.

Yes because the idea of a database sitting somewhere on the internet with the details of every time and everyone you've had sex with will be really attractive to the public.
 
Actually ... as dumb as ^ idea is (LOL), a periodic app with the users location, would use hardly any battery power and could be uploded to a site, or lat/longs on an email.

Dumb idea? :eek: :D.

Besides let's pretend I wasn't joking about the app I wouldn't go as far as tracking users wouldn't suck battery. The location data would only be polled should they fail to confirm when the alarm sounds. To poll lat/long periodically would suck power quite quickly.
 
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Totally need to write an app. Sets an alarm off every couple of minutes to make sure they still consent upon completion they both certify that it was consensual after which app shuts down. If they miss a check in the app automatically alerts police with location.

Already done:-

http://good2goapp.com/
 
I always have a major panic the next day when I pull a girl who's been drinking. In fact, I've even turned quite a few away simply because the idea of them waking up the next day, regretting their drunken consensual decision and then lying about me raping them to save face genuinely scares me. My trust levels are nil. :o
 
Don't shag a drunk bird.

Job done.


Sober sex is way better than drunk sex anyway.

Random one night stands tend to occur at places where alcohol is consumed... unless you expect future generations of uni students to only get laid after a period of dating or to resort to using hookup aps like tinder etc.. then the good old drunken one night stand is going to stay. Frankly people like drinking, people meet the opposite sex on nights out and with alcohol in your system well... tis pretty natural.
 
It's a bit tragic for all the fog beasts out there,
blokes will be too scared to sleep with anyone if drink is involved, and that was their best hope.
 
Bear in mind that's not necessarily his opinion, that's actually because in law rape requires penetration, thus only men can rape, women can merely sexually assault. I think, I might be wrong :p

yes but you can guarantee that if a drunk man and drunk woman hook up and both wake up regretting it then it is the woman who is the default victim and man the default villain should she chose to report it

the man could, in theory, claim he was also too drunk to have consented but in reality the woman is not going to get charged only he is... there are very very few cases where a woman has been charged with sexual assault for having intercourse with a man without his consent and they're usually a bit more clear cut. On the other hand there have been quite a few cases where a man has been charged with rape and it has often just come down to an argument of whether the woman was in a position to consent.
 
I always have a major panic the next day when I pull a girl who's been drinking. In fact, I've even turned quite a few away simply because the idea of them waking up the next day, regretting their drunken consensual decision and then lying about me raping them to save face genuinely scares me. My trust levels are nil. :o

Date for a while before shagging someone and you'll probably be alright. Or even better, marry the girl you want to shag.

One night stands are unfulfilling anyway.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32973997



Seems like an interesting move which would make prosecutions easier to prove. Is it workable though and would it just lead to arguments over what "severely" constitutes?

But what about the other person of they're drunk too are they still expected to have the capacity to

A) consent themselves
B) assess the level of incapacitation of the other person to see if their consent is valid
 
Why? Sexual assault is charged in the same way and has the same sentencing guidelines.



Then why have rape at all get rid of it for men too and call it all sexual assault.

Unless you're about to admit the word has significant emotional power over the phrase sexual assault
 
Well no. As always, don't take advantage of anyone and you'll almost certainly be fine. I'd prefer anonymity for the accused, but even without that you're pretty safe if you don't risk it with a very, very drunk person!

But what of you're so drunk your capacity to make reasonable desicions is compromised?
 
There has been talk of reforming it, but on the other side there's stuff like the fact that violation with a penis is seen as worse than violation with a finger, for example. I tend to agree with that side, tbh - would I prefer to be raped, or violated with a strap on? The latter, certainly!

So with the average male penis in thw uk being around the 5 inch mark you'd rather be violated with a strap on which tend to start around the 6+ mark and go much much bigger.

interesting ;)

If someone's worried about raping people if they get too drunk, I'd suggest drinking less and going to counselling more.

Funny.

But if I give you a selection of women each are drunk to varying degrees (from two drink tipsy to sobbing relentless and spilling their darkest of secrets) and send you off with them to a pub or a club while your sober a few hours later I ask you which ones are capable of giving meaningful consent .

(We'll assume for the purposes of this they will all hit on you)

Now we repeat this dame people same drunkeness but you this time you're going to get progressively more drunk with them and I'm going to ask you through the might which ones are capable of giving meaningful consent.

Do you think your answers and the accuracy of your answer will remain the same as your level of intoxication rises.


Heck all that aside can you ever tell how drunk someone really is?

I've seen videos of me on a night out acting a little tipsy but otherwise fine and having perfectly normal unsure conversations. ...absolutely no recollection of it at all though.

I wouldn't have judged me incapable of consent at that point.
 
This is what I don't understand about alcohol and the people who drink it, it's almost hypocrisy.

If you make a conscious and rationally planned decision, while sober, to lose your inhibitions by ingesting copious amounts of alcohol and then placing yourself in the company of men you know are on the prowl. You have already consented. Alcohol should never be an excuse for poor decision making. People know what they're doing when they drink, they're losing their inhibitions, you cant bloody expect to use that as an excuse then can you!

It's like drink driving. You're responsible for leaving your car at home from the start. Not some horny man he's not responsible for not having sex with you.
 
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If you get hammered and pass out at a house party, is Tefal allowed to bum you then?

That's why I have house parties with only the utmost trustworthy people. Don't know why anyone would be mates, let alone drink with someone who has it in them to rape you while you're not even conscious. (not aimed at you personally Tefal I didn't use you as an example). If someone tried having sex with an unconscious woman (or man for that matter) at one of our parties we'd be wiping the floor with the scumbag, he'd never go to another party in his life.

People seriously cant find people to drink with who won't try having sex with them?? Maybe people need to find friends while sober, build a trusting relationship, and then go drinking. If you're looking for mates while already drunk no wonder you're not finding truly trustworthy friends, you're just finding people prowling for sex.
 
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