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I knew you couldnt do it. You dont have to own FM to be able to pick players who you think would do a good job. It is easy to pick players who we should have got. You watch football games right? EPL, International, CL, etc Then surely you can pick out some truly great players that are worthy of an Arsenal shirt. Please dont say Bendtner and Eboue...

Shame he has never made it in the EPL though

So in your eyes only success stories are gambles?

Could you do me a favour and lend Wenger your hindsight machine lol

My word this post is full of the ridiculous, firstly I named two players who Arsenal should buy, the two players I named LAST summer. So rather than ignore them if you want names, there they are for the third time. Also yes, I can say, Arsenal should have bought Falcao, and Ronaldo, and Kompany, and De Jong, and, etc, etc. So what you're asking for is a list of players in all the top leagues, please explain what that would prove beyond... errm.... nothing. A list of players we can afford, would want to sign for us, are realistic targets, who fit the wage structure, who would fit in the team is VERY different from an arbitrary list of all the best players names I know which is what you appear to want. I also pointed this out to you, I also pointed out when the team started to go wrong, and had it been fixed then, the people I would buy this year would be very different, AND it would depend ENTIRELY on who I could get rid of who needed it AND I would send quality scouts to the right places to find the right good value great players that would make good business sense, I wouldn't buy every expensive name I could find.

As for Bendtner not making it in the EPL, I suggest you look up his scoring record which suggests anything but, what you will notice is his goals to minutes is plenty good enough, he simply hasn't been given time and he was scoring and assist at a decent rate while mostly being played out of position.

As for gambles, errm, I really hope that you aren't suggesting the gambles Wenger was taking was hoping to get **** players because I took you to mean, Wenger taking gambles on POTENTIALLY GOOD PLAYERS, who turned out badly. Try and reread what I said, he hasn't done this, he's "taken a gamble" on players who simply aren't good, and the gamble (implied gamble that they MIGHT ACTUALLY BE WORTHWHILE BUYING, or the gamble would be, how **** they will turn out.... and odd gamble to be happy with Wenger taking) was never "could they be good or great" because they weren't great players.

You could buy Veron, who was great in other leagues and suggest its a gamble because he might not work out in England.

Gervinho, Chamakh, Santos, Mertesacker, at their best in their respective leagues, weren't good, certainly not great, but AVERAGE.

I don't want a manager spending 13mil on a winger where the gamble is, terrible, or barely average. Anyone, literally anyone any season can get a bunch of goals, its been done by poor players time and time again, rarely if ever has a truly **** player scored 15+ goals several seasons in a row, football is about luck and those around you, people get lucky. Gervinho is useless.

AS for hindsight, find me where I haven't said the same BEFORE buying said player, or very very early on.

I think you'll find I was laughed at because my view on Gervinho's first preseason game where he got two goals in 45 minutes, was he was terrible. "he got two goals" I was told, therefore is fantastic, the fact that the two goals were a joke and the 44 minutes 50 seconds aside from the two tap ins were truly absymal and my early view, backed up by each and every subsequent appearance was, he sucks.

I said Chamakh would be a terrible buy 6 months before we bought him, I said Dos Santos at late 20's playing in a poor league that loves buying not very good south american players which can't make it in the top euro leagues was.... stupid. Most people questioned if the slow and not strong Mertesacker would do well, quite rightly, in the prem league.

Likewise, everyone already knew Arteta could be good.

Buying a inconsistent player who is sometimes great and HOPING they turn out consistent and great is a gamble, buying someone who is barely average.... and hoping they turn out consistent and great is stupid, its not a gamble it doesn't happen. These players weren't ever good enough, they weren't carefully calculated gambles, they were bad buys, nothing else.
 
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My word this post is full of the ridiculous, firstly I named two players who Arsenal should buy, the two players I named LAST summer. So rather than ignore them if you want names, there they are for the third time. Also yes, I can say, Arsenal should have bought Falcao, and Ronaldo, and Kompany, and De Jong, and, etc, etc. So what you're asking for is a list of players in all the top leagues, please explain what that would prove beyond... errm.... nothing. A list of players we can afford, would want to sign for us, are realistic targets, who fit the wage structure, who would fit in the team is VERY different from an arbitrary list of all the best players names I know which is what you appear to want. I also pointed this out to you, I also pointed out when the team started to go wrong, and had it been fixed then, the people I would buy this year would be very different, AND it would depend ENTIRELY on who I could get rid of who needed it AND I would send quality scouts to the right places to find the right good value great players that would make good business sense, I wouldn't buy every expensive name I could find.

As for Bendtner not making it in the EPL, I suggest you look up his scoring record which suggests anything but, what you will notice is his goals to minutes is plenty good enough, he simply hasn't been given time and he was scoring and assist at a decent rate while mostly being played out of position.

As for gambles, errm, I really hope that you aren't suggesting the gambles Wenger was taking was hoping to get **** players because I took you to mean, Wenger taking gambles on POTENTIALLY GOOD PLAYERS, who turned out badly. Try and reread what I said, he hasn't done this, he's "taken a gamble" on players who simply aren't good, and the gamble (implied gamble that they MIGHT ACTUALLY BE WORTHWHILE BUYING, or the gamble would be, how **** they will turn out.... and odd gamble to be happy with Wenger taking) was never "could they be good or great" because they weren't great players.

You could buy Veron, who was great in other leagues and suggest its a gamble because he might not work out in England.

Gervinho, Chamakh, Santos, Mertesacker, at their best in their respective leagues, weren't good, certainly not great, but AVERAGE.

I don't want a manager spending 13mil on a winger where the gamble is, terrible, or barely average. Anyone, literally anyone any season can get a bunch of goals, its been done by poor players time and time again, rarely if ever has a truly **** player scored 15+ goals several seasons in a row, football is about luck and those around you, people get lucky. Gervinho is useless.

AS for hindsight, find me where I haven't said the same BEFORE buying said player, or very very early on.

I think you'll find I was laughed at because my view on Gervinho's first preseason game where he got two goals in 45 minutes, was he was terrible. "he got two goals" I was told, therefore is fantastic, the fact that the two goals were a joke and the 44 minutes 50 seconds aside from the two tap ins were truly absymal and my early view, backed up by each and every subsequent appearance was, he sucks.

I said Chamakh would be a terrible buy 6 months before we bought him, I said Dos Santos at late 20's playing in a poor league that loves buying not very good south american players which can't make it in the top euro leagues was.... stupid. Most people questioned if the slow and not strong Mertesacker would do well, quite rightly, in the prem league.

Likewise, everyone already knew Arteta could be good.

Buying a inconsistent player who is sometimes great and HOPING they turn out consistent and great is a gamble, buying someone who is barely average.... and hoping they turn out consistent and great is stupid, its not a gamble it doesn't happen. These players weren't ever good enough, they weren't carefully calculated gambles, they were bad buys, nothing else.

So a lot of personal opinions then
 
DM I actually enjoy, read and agree with a lot of your posts about any other club than Arsenal. Not that I disagree with everything you say about them (although I do most because IMO no Wenger = no CL football and bye bye best players.), but because all your posts are now the same, bitter, twisted posts over and over again. It's all hate hate hate....!

I think Arsenal need to keep Wenger and should be hiring a better scouting team.
 
As for Bendtner not making it in the EPL, I suggest you look up his scoring record which suggests anything but, what you will notice is his goals to minutes is plenty good enough, he simply hasn't been given time and he was scoring and assist at a decent rate while mostly being played out of position.

Yeah he does have a good ratio for minutes to goals, mainly because he is used more as a sub. But I wouldnt call him a success compared to his potential.

As for not getting the time, he has had more time than most up front and just hasnt claimed the role as his own.

If there is nothing wrong with his ability then it must be his attitude or training ground form that kept him out of the team.

DM I actually enjoy, read and agree with a lot of your posts about any other club than Arsenal. Not that I disagree with everything you say about them (although I do most because IMO no Wenger = no CL football and bye bye best players.), but because all your posts are now the same, bitter, twisted posts over and over again. It's all hate hate hate....!

I think Arsenal need to keep Wenger and should be hiring a better scouting team.

I have been away from this forum for a while and I was just testing the water to see how DM was doing. A bit naughty but it sets him off on his big unreadable paragraphs.

I swear he only has copy and paste on his computer :D
 
Chelsea apparently now favourites for Hazard with City out of the picture altogether
 
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Steven Naismith very close to signing for us apparently. And Arsenal are looking at signing Manny Fernandes, apparently him and Moyes are not to great of friends. Wouldn't be arsed if he didn't come back though.
 
They could sign both...

If Chelsea spend £100 million odd this transfer window they will find it near impossible to comply with the FFP regulations won't they?

Modric and Hazard would not be enough to challenge next season with Drogba going.
 
I don't think chelsea will buy modric - he's not worth it for the transfer fee being talked about.

I wouldn't be surprised if he requests a transfer and Chelsea could get him for ~£30. They would still need a top class striker to partner Torres in case he goes off the boil again.

I can't see how a player like Eden Hazard would go to a club without a manager though. Maybe he is delaying his decision till Chelsea appoint someone.
 
You'd think that would be the case, but the likes of Bayern Munich are very cosy with UEFA and are likely to push for some sort of punishment for those who fail to make the FFP regs.
 
They're already to going to massively fail to hit those targets, and have won the competition they'd possibly get barred from (although I'm dubious!)... so Roman won't even care :cool:.

Hmm, maybe. I don't know whether they will make special dispensations for clubs that are financially unstable but have not spunked money up the wall since the FFP rule was announced.

I can't see how City are going to do it even if they don't spend a penny this summer but Chelsea might have a shot.

I got the impression that Abramovich loved winning the Champions League but he still wants to win it with some style. He has said that he wants to play a style of football that is something akin to Barca and the way Chelsea played in the CL was almost the exact opposite.

Thats one of the reasons I can't see Di Matteo getting the role. Its hard to say if he just let the experienced players play the way they have for years or whether he was orchestrating it all himself. Either way, he won't get Chelsea playing the sort of football that Roman wants.
 
You'd think that would be the case, but the likes of Bayern Munich are very cosy with UEFA and are likely to push for some sort of punishment for those who fail to make the FFP regs.

The only punishment they can hand out is barring the team from the CL for a season. Anything less wouldn't bother any big team. You could fine City £20 million and let them in and I doubt the owners would care.
 
If I were Di Matteo I wouldn't want the Chelsea job. He's just won the Fa Cup and Champions League, but the squad needs some major work and I can't see it being as successful next year. Take a nice chunk of cash and run away!
 
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