Altered Carbon

Yaayuh! · 21 Feb 2018 at 13:53

Really enjoyed this, despite the cringeworthy cheesy scenes and didn’t so much care for episode 7.

Well worth watching though, more so for cyber punk and sci-fi fans

ttaskmaster · 21 Feb 2018 at 17:32

nicktay2605 said:
Does anyone else struggle at times to understand what Ortega is saying? The actress who plays her has a pretty strong accent and I found I was missing things she was saying occasionally.

She's speaking Spanish. Put the subtitles on!!

Mysterae_ · 21 Feb 2018 at 22:57

Finished the season and I really enjoyed it. Looking forward to the next.

Talking of spoilers, spoilers from the books are spoilers for the shows!

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 22 Feb 2018 at 13:08

Meh,I thought it was OK as a series,very much in the vein of The Matrix school of cyberpunk,with lots of violence and nudity to bulk it up almost like a computer game. It suffers the same problem as the Ghost in the Shell film,all glitzy,nice set pieces,but a story which does not really survive any analysis.

After rewatching Ghost in the Shell:SAC recently,its just better at the whole cyberpunk angle.

I give it a 6/10 TBH. After watching shows like The Expanse and Westworld,these are just better done IMHO OFC.

Raymond Lin · 24 Feb 2018 at 01:52

Just finished it, the middle bit certainly was slow, last episode was good though.

bledd · 26 Feb 2018 at 07:50

Started watching this yesterday. I've got one and a half episodes to go

Love the world and characters.

The hello unicorn bag is hilarious

neoboy · 28 Feb 2018 at 01:43

If anything the world and characters were a little too interesting, half way through the season I forgot where he was with the main bit of the plot

Rroff · 28 Feb 2018 at 01:47

bledd said:
The hello unicorn bag is hilarious

Some of the scenes with that bag are even funnier when watched in isolation once you've finished the series.

Squid Vicious · 3 Mar 2018 at 09:41

Mixed feelings on this, overall I enjoyed it but felt it was let down by some of the acting/actors and that it could have been just a little more polished.

I'm off to read the final 2 books in the trilogy but not really expecting netflix to do any more with this.

No1newts · 3 Mar 2018 at 15:58

I'm near the end, can't understand why they've butchered the book story so much. It's decent but reading the book has spoilt it a bit for me.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 5 Mar 2018 at 13:37

Squid Vicious said:
Mixed feelings on this, overall I enjoyed it but felt it was let down by some of the acting/actors and that it could have been just a little more polished.

I'm off to read the final 2 books in the trilogy but not really expecting netflix to do any more with this.

No1newts said:
I'm near the end, can't understand why they've butchered the book story so much. It's decent but reading the book has spoilt it a bit for me.

Its trying to be "gritty" so that means more money on SFX,people prancing around with their dongs/other bits out all the time and finding out much they can outdue their competitors in gory death of the week. Its like a very pretty game,with lots of nice combat,but everything else is an afterthought.

However,that comes at the expense of actually trying to probably work on the story,characters,etc. I will give it one more season,but the way the chap is now

looking for the love of his life

I can see much The100 level angst now creeping in,as that is how they tend to frame these things on TV.

No1newts · 5 Mar 2018 at 16:35

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Its trying to be "gritty" so that means more money on SFX,people prancing around with their dongs/other bits out all the time and finding out much they can outdue their competitors in gory death of the week. Its like a very pretty game,with lots of nice combat,but everything else is an afterthought.

However,that comes at the expense of actually trying to probably work on the story,characters,etc. I will give it one more season,but the way the chap is now

looking for the love of his life

I can see much The100 level angst now creeping in,as that is how they tend to frame these things on TV.

I wouldn't bother with a second season, though it may be more enjoyable as I cannot imagine it following the books now so may be easier to let go of that element.

The "gritty" comment is true, I'm certainly no prude but the constant nakedness in shows now is just tedious. It isn't edgy, it's cringe worthy seeing people jumping round with it all on show. If I want soft porn I'll watch porn, I don't want pathetic titillation (no pun intended) to the detriment of the story.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 5 Mar 2018 at 17:38

No1newts said:
I wouldn't bother with a second season, though it may be more enjoyable as I cannot imagine it following the books now so may be easier to let go of that element.

The "gritty" comment is true, I'm certainly no prude but the constant nakedness in shows now is just tedious. It isn't edgy, it's cringe worthy seeing people jumping round with it all on show. If I want soft porn I'll watch porn, I don't want pathetic titillation (no pun intended) to the detriment of the story.

Thats a shame as I started reading the book,since it seemed to be interesting enough,but have not gone far - might just read the books instead. I loved the Bladerunner films,Ghost in the Shell SAC,etc but I just felt disappointed by this series so far,and TBH only the AI chap seemed interesting - apparently the reason why they could use a likeness of Jimi Hendrix was apparently since the script was too violent and the estate wouldn't allow it. But I do think there is a degree of one-upmanship with all this - I hope it does not get to Arnie level,because that would be rather comedic.

No1newts · 5 Mar 2018 at 20:03

The first book is brilliant and we'll worth a read. The second is good in its right but vastly different from the first (it's basically a war story with a little whodunnit as opposed to a detective story) the third I still haven't got round to reading.

The series follows the gist of the books but I would still say you can enjoy the read without it being too spoiled by the show.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 5 Mar 2018 at 22:50

No1newts said:
The first book is brilliant and we'll worth a read. The second is good in its right but vastly different from the first (it's basically a war story with a little whodunnit as opposed to a detective story) the third I still haven't got round to reading.

The series follows the gist of the books but I would still say you can enjoy the read without it being too spoiled by the show.

I will try and finish the first one then,and then get on to the others. Thanks!!

LiE · 14 Mar 2018 at 14:43

I liked it, it was a little difficult to follow at times.

My favourite character was Poe, the AI/Hotel.

Ortega is also smoking hot.

Rroff · 14 Mar 2018 at 14:45

LiE said:
My favourite character was Poe, the AI/Hotel.

The AI hotel stuff was quite well done. It could have been quite interesting if they'd expanded on the back story there along side the main story seemed some interesting characters and history.

Gabbatek · 16 Mar 2018 at 12:08

Will probably give this a go during next week

Mak3R · 16 Mar 2018 at 13:43

Finished this last week. Overall I thought it was very good. Bit ropey on the acting a few times but the plot and action scenes I enjoyed. All the VR torture stuff was mental.

melmac · 18 Mar 2018 at 17:45

Just finished watching the first two episodes. Not sure i will watch the third, it's ok, a little less flash and a little more substance would have went a long way.