Amazon Supermarkets

Bouton Aide said:
Walk in, scan phone pick products, walk out.

There is no scanning products. My point is what happens if you use someone else’s login!
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The same as if you use their contactless I guess - free lunch!

You surely have a pin code or lock of some type on your phone though?
 
Em3bbs said:
The same as if you use their contactless I guess - free lunch!

You surely have a pin code or lock of some type on your phone though?
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Whats to say someone knows it or they steal your Amazon login to use the app?

Think about it from the other side for a moment. How does one app know it’s you logging into it without face I’ll recognition?

Someone needs to test this theory.
 
Bouton Aide said:
Whats to say someone knows it or they steal your Amazon login to use the app?

Think about it from the other side for a moment. How does one app know it’s you logging into it without face I’ll recognition?

Someone needs to test this theory.
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If someone has my Amazon login the last thing I'd be worried about would be a chicken wrap and a chocolate chip cookie being purchased. Don't you use 2FA?
 
Em3bbs said:
If someone has my Amazon login the last thing I'd be worried about would be a chicken wrap and a chocolate chip cookie being purchased. Don't you use 2FA?
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Do you think that’s all they would go in for? :D

I use MFA of course. Maybe if they make it so you have to use MFA on signup would make it a lot more secure. Maybe to use the shopping store MFA has to be turned on.
 
The_Arbiter said:
I can see thieves liking this type of store.
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Firstly you need to have the app to scan yourself in and second there are cameras everywhere, as that’s part of how they record and charge you for what you take. I guess they could put a guard at the door to stop people jumping gate
 
robfosters said:
Why do you insist on insulting people?
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I'm sure he can take being called a numpty. My point was we fill our cars with petrol and each time we do so before we pay.

For some reason people think they've come up with gotchas against one of the richest firms in the world. As if they haven't thought about basics like how payment works.
 
Bear said:
Firstly you need to have the app to scan yourself in and second there are cameras everywhere, as that’s part of how they record and charge you for what you take. I guess they could put a guard at the door to stop people jumping gate
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You have to scan your phone before walking in? Sounds inconvenient :p

We have cameras and guards already in stores, but the petty thief doesn't appear to be deterred much. I just can't see it being smooth running in the cities.
 
The_Arbiter said:
You have to scan your phone before walking in? Sounds inconvenient :p

We have cameras and guards already in stores, but the petty thief doesn't appear to be deterred much. I just can't see it being smooth running in the cities.
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The difference is that in a traditional store, you're trying to stop the thief from getting *out* once a theft has already taken place. With the Amazon shops you have to gain entry, and by doing so then everything you take is charged to your account. It's a lot worse for shoplifters, either ones who barge their way past guards, or the more covert type who slip some extra food into a bag. That's pretty much the whole selling point of this type of technology.

All of the US ones seem to be in cities, most of them a lot worse for crime than anywhere in the UK (Chicago, SF etc).
 
burtie said:
Just another London only fad, shop online get it delivered, simples.
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Go to the shop put stuff in the basket, say hello to the cashier, wish them a nice day or some other inconsequential, pay and smile. Leave the shop feeling accomplished and better for a smile and some human contact.

11 seconds to buy lunch, piffle.
 
I saw this on the news the other day and whilst it looks handy I was thinking what if you got the bill and there were items there that you didn't buy?

Dispute process would be difficult.
 
Em3bbs said:
Of course the cost matters. I've not been to the UK one, but the cost was about the same in the US city ones compared to a 'normal' US supermarket/deli in the areas I've been to.
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I wasn't talking about the prices being charged for the products on the shelves. I was talking about the cost, which includes becoming a product.
 
Bouton Aide said:
In theory they could reduce the prices of the products in favour of using some of your data. :)

Sounds like a fair trade right?
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If done with full and accurate disclosure of exactly what is being traded for what and if it was optional, then yes.
 
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