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AMD confirms Ryzen 7 5800X3D launches this spring, Zen4 Raphael in 2H 2022

humbug said:
Most of that looks = to eachother, but the there a couple of impressive leads for the 5800X3D in there.

Final Fantasy XV.
5800X3D: 217 FPS (+ 29%)
12900KF: 168 FPS

Shadow of the Tombraider.
5800X3D: 181 (+ 10%)
12900KF: 164

The Witcher 3.
5800X3D: 253 FPS (+ 22%)
12900KF: 207 FPS
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Those are just the 1080P slides, the 720P ones look even better.
 
These early results are amusing, reminds me of the cache test hardware unboxed ran, so it begs the question, why do manufacturers bother with cores and clock speed? Just slap in 1GB of cache and 1000 FPS @ 720p :p
 
Tetras said:
These early results are amusing, reminds me of the cache test hardware unboxed ran, so it begs the question, why do manufacturers bother with cores and clock speed? Just slap in 1GB of cache and 1000 FPS @ 720p :p
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Its about available space, L3 cache is a large part of a CPU, the 32MB of L3 takes up the same amount of space as the 8 cores in a Zen 3 CCD, the purple in the attached Zen 3 die shot, the 64MB cache added on top is much more dense on a 6nm node. to add the 64MB between the cores (96MB total) on 7nm would make the chip 2.5X the size and pretty much all cache.

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First proper review out

At 1080p gaming it's an average of 8% faster than 5800x but results vary wildly anywhere from 5% slower than the 5800x to 38% faster than the 5800x with the majority of games showing little to improvement hence why the average is pulled down.

For those who care, on average the 12900KS is still the gaming king but the 5800x3d is only 1% behind now.

As for heat, does not seem to be a problem the y 5800x3d only runs slightly hotter than 5800x but it's worth noting that idle power draw is higher and peak power draw is 20w higher.

overclocking was not possible, all BIOS settings are available but any attempt to change settings results in pc not posting

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d/22.html
 
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Grim5 said:
First proper review out

At 1080p gaming it's an average of 8% faster than 5800x but results vary wildly anywhere from 5% slower than the 5800x to 38% faster than the 5800x with the majority of games showing little to improvement hence why the average is pulled down.

For those who care, on average the 12900KS is still the gaming king but the 5800x3d is only 1% behind now.

As for heat, does not seem to be a problem the y 5800x3d only runs slightly hotter than 5800x but it's worth noting that idle power draw is higher and peak power draw is 20w higher.

overclocking was not possible, all BIOS settings are available but any attempt to change settings results in pc not posting

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d/22.html
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DDR5 6000 CL 36-36-36 on Alder Lake vs 3600 CL 16-20-20 for the 5800X3D..... they should have used my bargain basket RAM on the Ryzen System, they would have got better results.

Next......
 
humbug said:
DDR5 6000 CL 36-36-36 on Alder Lake vs 3600 CL 16-20-20 for the 5800X3D..... they should have used my bargain basket RAM on the Ryzen System, they would have got better results.

Next......
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Both setups are running faster memory than their respective CPU's spec.

We need to see in-spec testing. Pushing these CPU's beyond spec is interesting but I think we should compare the best-case hardware that's within spec for the CPU's being compared.
 
I know i shouldn't but after all the talk lately of effciency, price and ggaming performance i was really hoping the usual suspects would have been commenting by now
 
humbug said:
DDR5 6000 CL 36-36-36 on Alder Lake vs 3600 CL 16-20-20 for the 5800X3D..... they should have used my bargain basket RAM on the Ryzen System, they would have got better results.

Next......
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For gaming I think the DDR4 is probably better due to the lower latency.

Its a good priced, and power efficient gaming CPU, not so good if you value non gaming workloads in which case normal 5800X be better.

I think the review it came out ok.

I expect on games like lightning returns which are single threaded with massive cpu bottlenecks this chip would do quite well.
 
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