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**AMD Fiji Thread**

Graphic cards articles are the most viewed on an hardware website, I get their frustration.
And no, this is in no way a good decision, If kitguru had simply done their review no one would be doubting Fury now.
I was thinking about it after seven years with Nvidia, but now I'm skeptical. The power of bad PR.
 
KillBoY_UK said:
Surely if you have a kick ass product you want it in the hands of as many reviewers as possible, what would AMD have to hide.

Think of the **** storm if nVidia did this fro the same reasons.......
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Oh yeah, AMD has paid everyone to make good reviews on a crap product and excluded the champions of truth and justice!

Get a grip mate, it looks like supply is a bit constrained as it is. Better to get that review sample boxed and in the channel rather than give stuff to people that talk **** about you every other day.

If Kitguru **** their nest that's their problem to fix, stop buying into the whole victim spin. There will be plenty of reviews both site based and user from the demand I see for the first shipment.
 
ubersonic said:
Interesting, according to Kitguru it looks like AMD is refusing to give Fury samples to review sites which are not pro-AMD:

http://www.kitguru.net/site-news/an...-kitguru-fury-x-sample-over-negative-content/

Could be sour grapes, but a bit worrying if true :(
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The whole industry is like that tbh and nvidia are the same. Even EA give games to those who are part of the Ronku program so that they can earn money whilst giving positive biased feedback to youtube subscribers and those who happen to stumble across review videos.

I only trust Guru3D and Tom's H/W.
 
It's pretty clear they're only sending them to favourables, but this may just be due to quantity. I know from speaking with ASUS they been struggling to get hold of any, for more important purposes than to talk you stupid about it lol.
 
KillBoY_UK said:
Surely if you have a kick ass product you want it in the hands of as many reviewers as possible, what would AMD have to hide.

Think of the **** storm if nVidia did this fro the same reasons.......
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Well obviously as Kitguru are the ones to report this story about Kitguru they are in damage control mode. You're not going to get the full story from then are you lol.

You need the full context which Kitguru is not going to give you.

Kitguru made a video Pre E3 saying that AMD were basically bad guys because they did not show Fiji to 'Kitguru' before their E3 event, and crirtised AMD for showing some of their fans the products. They suggested that AMD were trying to avoid reviews and made lot's of anti AMD comments, along with the guy in the video being basically a winy cry baby and the opening line in the video is this 'Speculation and guess work'.

Awful, even worse in hindsight. Just listen to his wont tone in his voice, that alone is reason not to send them samples.

Kitguru seriously that's the face and voice of your site? :eek:

AMD are being the bigger man, Kitgur made that video, AMD decided not to send cards (LOL) and Kitguru broke the story. Meanwhile AMD don't say nothing.

Like a boss.

I like the way at the end Kitguru said AMD's partners will still send them cards. I'm sure we can expect some unbiased reviews from Kitguru there then :rolleyes:
 
Geck0 said:
Oh yeah, AMD has paid everyone to make good reviews on a crap product and excluded the champions of truth and justice!

Get a grip mate, it looks like supply is a bit constrained as it is. Better to get that review sample boxed and in the channel rather than give stuff to people that talk **** about you every other day.

If Kitguru **** their nest that's their problem to fix, stop buying into the whole victim spin. There will be plenty of reviews both site based and user from the demand I see for the first shipment.
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You are being a little defensive there, people seemed to already be defending AMD over this. What would have happen if nVidia withheld review samples of the 980ti to websites who where critical over the 970 fiasco ? A massive **** storm.

AMD are just drawing negative attention to them self, If they are so proud of there killer product (and I relay hope it is great) you want it in as many hands as possible INCLUDING people who where negative (it seems to be the one video AMD are getting annoyed about) to prove the wrong.
 
IT Troll said:
Yes I would agree that memory management will definitely be a factor on these cards. The 4GB thing is clearly a technical compromise. If there was a way to give these cards more AMD would have done it, even if it meant this pushed the card into Titan X pricing. I suspect that in reality there will be a lot of games that run well in 4GB and just a few that require slightly degraded settings.
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you need gpu power more than ram first hand.
once that happens ram becomes a priority and HBM2 fixes all this early next year. Personally the watercooled card was amd way to say have fun with our toys even though its 4gb you be good with it.

lower settings people already do, saw someone having 100fps with a 980ti playing witcher 3 1080p which isnt possible with max settings.
 
I believe Nvidia did the same to Hardwarezone.com.sg and Hardwaresecrets - the first site broke NDA and the other one some crap happened between them since they gave a negative review. The first was the main hardware review site in Singapore and the second the English language site of the biggest hardware review site in South America,and one of the top 5 sites for PSU reviews too.

It was some years ago,so they might be both on better terms now though.

TBF,I think I would prefer a robust PR response in words than all these games both companies pull,but I suppose it is the world of business.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I believe Nvidia did the same to Hardwarezone.com.sg and Hardwaresecrets - the first site broke NDA and the other one some crap happened between them since they gave a negative review. The first was the main hardware review site in Singapore and the second the English language site of the biggest hardware review site in South America,and one of the top 5 sites for PSU reviews too.

It was some years ago,so they might be both on better terms now though.

TBF,I think I would prefer a robust PR response in words than all these games both companies pull,but I suppose it is the world of business.
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Then that is utter S*** thing to do as well
 
Well, it all depends on if the reviews are 'negatively biased' or justifiably negative.

If it's the former then I completely understand wanting to avoid giving them samples (when so much rides on this new card for them), if it's the latter than it's a case of dodging criticism & misinforming customers.

With it being mentioned that some review sites are using out of date drivers for the 3xx series cards to show greatly reduced performance - I can understand them being cautious.
 
LambChop said:
So its pretty safe to say that every Fury review will be positive as AMD have cherry picked the ones they want to review their cards.
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Everyone does that. some french site hammers amd and get nvidia material first. Bias is everywhere.

elmarko said:
Well, it all depends on if the reviews are 'negatively biased' or justifiably negative.

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Really hard to tell sometimes.
I check my own list
Minfps
smoothness
overclocking
features I need, eyefinity etc..
so while I read websites for benchmarks I also know two reviews can show different results for unknown reason.
I am informed and make choice based on stuff I know I want and need but many who walks into a shop just dont. Really though for customers and the company if the review is done from someone like the french site.

Imagine someone make a Mantle review and show Nvidia cards do 0 zero fps and no dx api test? I bet we see a lawsuit from nvidia then.;)
 
Bonjour said:
Not really, no.

Are there reports of other sites, or is it merely KitGuru, who have acted like dicks.
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There doesn't have to be any other reports if everyone else is playing ball to what AMD want from them.

Kitguru stood out of line. I'm pretty glad they spoke up about it.
 
So today we have another thing for certain folks to moan/bash AMD over. You'd hope people would have better things to do but there you go.

What was it:
Wednesday - 4gb Ram
Thursday - HDMI 2.0
Friday - Not supplying a review card.

Wonder what it'll be tomorrow or will we get a rest over the weekend...
 
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