**AMD Fiji Thread**

[Jono8]

The Nano represents the future of GPU form. If that's technologically mundane, then well...

As I have a nice decent sized case, i can't say i really care if a card is a couple of inches shorter. I appreciate that for those wanting a small form factor PC though it will be good.

Technology wise, and from what AMD have said, it sounds like it might be around 980 performance, possibly a bit faster with a 175tdp which is mundane considering it will arrive nearly a year later.

I did think it seemed quite cool at first but now i'mnot so sure having thought about.

 

[Bonjour]

That is an extremely narrow minded view, not even looking beyond your own, immediate, requirements.

There is a whole lot more to 'technology' (extremely broad term) than just performance and power consumption.

 

[JediFragger]

Hurry up Tonga XL, we're all waiting for you!!!

 

[Rroff]

The Nano represents the future of GPU form. If that's technologically mundane, then well...

I doubt GPUs will stick with that size - maturity of the 28nm process and advances of the 20nm and below allow powerful GPUs in form factors previous infeasible in recent generations but I doubt they will necessarily sit back and leave all the potential board space to waste - whether multi core GPUs become more common or other features who knows.

Go back a good few years an stuff like the TNT2, Rage Fury Maxx, etc. were on boards smaller than the nano IIRC - we've actually come around full cycle in some ways.

 

[Lokken86]

I doubt GPUs will stick with that size - maturity of the 28nm process and advances of the 20nm and below allow powerful GPUs in form factors previous infeasible but I doubt they will necessarily sit back and leave all the potential board space to waste - whether multi core GPUs become more common or other features who knows.

Go back a good few years an stuff like the TNT2, Rage Fury Maxx, etc. were on boards smaller than the nano IIRC.

Heh. Reminds me of Bill Gates and 640k RAM will be enough. You do realise computers used to fill up whole rooms right?

Technology shrinks with time.

 

[Rroff]

Heh. Reminds me of Bill Gates and 640k RAM will be enough. You do realise computers used to fill up whole rooms right?

Technology shrinks with time.

I remember going into the "server" room at my dads work in the very early 80s with HDDs bigger than shoe boxes with 2 huge metal platters visible in each roughly record sized - held about 800KB each IIRC heh.

EDIT: Oh wow they were actually 850MB.

 

[Jono8]

That is an extremely narrow minded view, not even looking beyond your own, immediate, requirements.

There is a whole lot more to 'technology' (extremely broad term) than just performance and power consumption.

True, but so far the only thing i can see to get excited about is the size of it, and it being a few inches shorter than what we have now makes no odds to me.

Selfish, yes. Narrow minded, no.

If it doesnt turn out to be a decent bit faster than something like this then it will be a bit dissapointing.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-153-GI&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1010

 

[Bonjour]

I remember going into the "server" room at my dads work in the very early 80s with HDDs bigger than shoe boxes with 2 huge metal platters visible in each roughly record sized - held about 800KB each IIRC heh.

EDIT: Oh wow they were actually 850MB.

They have some epic ~1M ceramic hard drive platters at the national museum of computing. The guy giving the tour said it wasn't unheard of for them to come loose while rotating at speed and rip through a brick wall.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

As I have a nice decent sized case, i can't say i really care if a card is a couple of inches shorter. I appreciate that for those wanting a small form factor PC though it will be good.

Technology wise, and from what AMD have said, it sounds like it might be around 980 performance, possibly a bit faster with a 175tdp which is mundane considering it will arrive nearly a year later.

I did think it seemed quite cool at first but now i'mnot so sure having thought about.

Not really since there are no GTX980 cards in a small form factor and the nearest card in a small form factor is the GTX970.

Both use much smaller chips too.

The card is meant to be like 85% as fast as a Fury X according to some rumours which makes it probably faster than a GTX980,and to get a GM210 sized GPU into such a small form factor is pretty amazing.

It makes the GTX980TI look mundane TBH!

As a SFF PC user the short GTX970 cards were the most interesting cards for me,but the Fury Nano looks to be even more interesting.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

I agree, the Nano to me seems a bit 'meh'. So it's shorter, how many cases can't handle a decent size card?

If they'd have made it half height (not 1 slot, half height the other way) and supplied one of those short pci brackets it might have been useful for those mini-ITX cases (although is the cooling in those enough for gaming?).

Would rather have the Fury X or 980Ti than something 85% of the performance.

 

[Gerard]

Heh. Reminds me of Bill Gates and 640k RAM will be enough. You do realise computers used to fill up whole rooms right?

Technology shrinks with time.

You do know thats more of a myth that he said that than anything? Just one of those urban legends that somehow stuck to him.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I agree, the Nano to me seems a bit 'meh'. So it's shorter, how many cases can't handle a decent size card?

If they'd have made it half height (not 1 slot, half height the other way) and supplied one of those short pci brackets it might have been useful for those mini-ITX cases (although is the cooling in those enough for gaming?).

Would rather have the Fury X or 980Ti than something 85% of the performance.

Not really - plenty of us are SFF fans.

The fact that a GM210 class GPU can be put into such a small form factor is amazing.

It's only meh since it might beat a GTX980 in that form factor and the fastest equivalent is the Nvidia gtx970 mini which still needs an 8 pin PCI-E power connector and is slower.

There are no SFF GTX980 or GTX980TI cards out currently.

This could for into an Elite 110 or Q33 case.

I hope the next Nvidia high end cards also shrink with HBM2.

Plus its about time AMD shrunk their cards down - the R9 290/390 cards are stupidly long.

My Cubitek Mini Cube is a bit big for my own liking so hopefully next year I can downsize even more.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

Not really - plenty of us are SFF fans.

The fact that a GM210 class GPU can be put into such a small form factor is amazing.

It's only meh since it might beat a GTX980 in that form factor and the fastest equivalent is the Nvidia gtx970 mini which still needs an 8 pin PCI-E power connector and is slower.

There are no SFF GTX980 or GTX980TI cards out currently.

This could for into an Elite 110 or Q33 case.

I hope the next Nvidia high end cards also shrink with HBM2.

Plus its about time AMD shrunk their cards down - the R9 290/390 cards are stupidly long.

My Cubitek Mini Cube is a bit big for my own liking so hopefully next year I can downsize even more.

Yeah, but there seems to be a lot of ITX cases that either don't support a graphics card at all or support longer cards.
Seems a bit niche is all I'm saying.

 

[itchy]

I welcome small form factors.

I have a P190 case and am just waiting for a monkey to turn up and throw a bone in front of it!

Its a monolith! Next build I going small so Fiji me up baby!!

 

[muziqaz]

Charlie just posted an article in semiaccurate about fiji. He warns about cleaning of thermal paste from the GPU. He is saying that it can potentially damage the chip. Have no clue how much truth there is in his words, but better safe than sorry, eh?

If true then we would have so many extreme overclockers moaning about dead GPUs after they changed the Thermal paste or cooler

 

[Jono8]

Not really since there are no GTX980 cards in a small form factor and the nearest card in a small form factor is the GTX970.

Both use much smaller chips too.

The card is meant to be like 85% as fast as a Fury X according to some rumours which makes it probably faster than a GTX980,and to get a GM210 sized GPU into such a small form factor is pretty amazing.

It makes the GTX980TI look mundane TBH!

As a SFF PC user the short GTX970 cards were the most interesting cards for me,but the Fury Nano looks to be even more interesting.

The thing is I am sceptical about how fast the nano will really be. If the Fury X needs an AIO cooler and a rated TDP of 275w to match or possibly marginally beat a 980Ti, I don't see how the Nano will be able to be 85% as fast as a Fury X whilst having a TDP of 175w and a small single fan.

I strongly suspect it is only going to be a bit faster than a 290x.

 

[Mynight]

It's only on the interposers he mentions Apparantly they have the delicate bits facing upwards .

However I imagine with a bit of care and not going ham handed at it you'll be fine. I doubt AMD would overlook the aftermarket modders.

 

[Zerreth]

New case, or new CPU cooler ?

/edit

Rotated 180° you win 6mm, as the NH-D14 is slightly asymmetric.
This is either gonna fit with 1-2 mm in between or not at all.

/edit2
*Updated Images*
61-62 mm from case edge to Noctua Heatsink, even with the Rotated 180° Noctua 6mm space win I still won't have enough space. (70mm)

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

Spoiler

New case, or new CPU cooler ?

/edit
Rotated 180° you win 6mm, as the NH-D14 is slightly asymmetric, so it might just fit

But would you want to?
Does that mean that one way or another you'll be blowing warm air over the second heatsink/radiator?

Issues like this is one of the reasons I changed to a AIO CPU cooler despite not being a fan of AIO coolers.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The thing is the Fury Nano is coming last. I suspect both the Fury X and Fury will have leaker chips which are better for over clocking and Fury Nano will probably have the less leakier chips together with a downclock and a PCB optimised for power consumption and not overclocking.