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AMD freesync coming soon, no extra costs.... shocker

shankly1985 said:
It's not just about Vsync
You can Force games to use 120hz if you wanted to Fifa 14 being one of the games default it's lock @60hz With RadeonPro I can force that game to use 120hz

RP offer's so much Overclocking on application basses like have one game OC 900/1250 or have another game 1000/1500 etc
Force games to have ambulant occlusion like CSGO or TF2

The option are endless
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Forcing Type of AA that aren't even available in game and integrated fully programmable in-app SweetFX are among my favourites. A few tweaks and Games look better.

Just a quick example. Change is very subttle, if you look close you can see a difference in colour depth.

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humbug said:
Forcing Type of AA that aren't even available in game and integrated fully programmable in-app SweetFX are among my favourites. A few tweaks and Games look better.

Just a quick example. Change is very subttle, if you look close you can see a difference in colour depth.
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Yeah forgot to add SweetFX also :D
Plus Full feature 64bit OSD
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shankly1985 said:
You do have the OSD enabled in them screenshot.
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Yeah, but its a 32Bit game. i did use 64Bit OSD for BF4 until MSI AB added support.

If you look its also in DX9, i actually got close to finishing the game before i noticed the DX11 option in the game settings. :o
 
Boomstick777 said:
Probably the same as Mantle, i.e when it's ready..

We've coped the past 20+ years without G-sync and Freesync, I'm sure a little while longer won't bother us :-D
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If you read the Journalism they state its already in the Drivers. Its just not active yet, my guess is AMD would need to talk to Screen vendors before switching it on.
 
humbug said:
Has this been spotted yet? Interesting. it may explain Nvidia's reasons for going down the hardware rout.

http://techreport.com/news/25867/amd-could-counter-nvidia-g-sync-with-simpler-free-sync-tech
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Very interesting, and probably right. The lack of hardware would make sense, it does beg the question though, that why didn't Nvidia just add the hardware to the next chip and wait till then to launch it. That way no need for hardware in the monitors? I can only assume that it is not as simple as that.

One thing that I did pick up on is that the hardware for the AMD variant has been in their GPU's for three generations. So that goes back to the 6000 series (oct 22 2010) so if it has taken them just over 3 years to come up with a demo, god know how long till an actual product release. :D:D:D
 
Thing is I own Nvidia hardware (my own choice!) and I want a new monitor so I might as well take advantage of Gsync in the process , considering I will most likely keep my current cards for a few years it isn't a major issue and its not like the screen wont be usable for future builds.
Sure it kinda sucks that the first hardware will be a semi lock in thing but you never know how the future will pan out and if Gsync is taken up then you might see Gsync/Freesync(love that name) monitors. A bit of rivalry in the industry is good for us so stop hating pick your brand and enjoy your comptuer.

Will freesync also act as a frame pacing tool? The way Gsync technology will work, as my understanding of it goes, allows it to completely eliminate SLI micro-stutter and then it becomes very interesting.
 
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bru said:
Very interesting, and probably right. The lack of hardware would make sense, it does beg the question though, that why didn't Nvidia just add the hardware to the next chip and wait till then to launch it. That way no need for hardware in the monitors? I can only assume that it is not as simple as that.

One thing that I did pick up on is that the hardware for the AMD variant has been in their GPU's for three generations. So that goes back to the 6000 series (oct 22 2010) so if it has taken them just over 3 years to come up with a demo, god know how long till an actual product release. :D:D:D
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No argument from me, i have said many time that AMD seem to be fast asleep at the best of times.

"oh look at that, we did this 3 years ago"

WELL WHY DIDN'T YOU ROLE IT OUT THEN????? LUNATICS!!!! :confused:
 
So several of the dare I say usual people are making bold claims like, it's Toshiba's technology, not AMD's. :(

It's not Toshiba's technology, Toshiba have merely implemented a proposed Vesa standard which ANYONE can do at any time, this feature works because it is ALREADY IMPLEMENTED IN THE DRIVER. This will ALREADY WORK on any screen that implements this feature, this worked because this has already been in drivers. It's not AMD technology, not completely anyway, the driver/hardware support is, but a screen needs to support dynamic refresh rates, there is a proposed industry standard method to do this(non final methods being used before they are finalised is fairly common), not many have implemented it.

AMD/Vesa are all surprised by it because as I suggested might be the case months ago, Nvidia were simply aware of an up and coming technology, decided to jump the gun and rather than wait for the natural progression of Asus's new screens(and everyone elses) implementing this, have struck a deal to use an Nvidia chip allowing Nvidia to lock their own users in.

from Tech Report
Koduri explained that this particular laptop's display happened to support a feature that AMD has had in its graphics chips "for three generations": dynamic refresh rates. AMD built this capability into its GPUs primarily for power-saving reasons, since unnecessary vertical refresh cycles burn power to little benefit. There's even a proposed VESA specification for dynamic refresh, and the feature has been adopted by some panel makers, though not on a consistent or widespread basis. AMD's Catalyst drivers already support it where it's available, which is why an impromptu demo was possible.
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There are few monitors that support it, like every single new feature. Can it be added through firmware updates, possibly but lets think about who that benefits.... the end user, great, but the manufacturer? So they can sell you a new freesync compatible screen or enable a great option for free which will make them zero money...... I don't hold high hopes on that one ;)

I expect when a decent gaming desktop screen is released that supports the Vesa feature, AMD will tell gamers about freesync. Till some desktop screens support it, what is the point of shouting at the rooftop about it?

For the record, my somewhat gloaty "lol Nvidia" opening post wasn't aimed remotely at Nvidia, but at the people on here who basically ganged up together to tell me how much I hate Nvidia and how wrong I am because I dare suggest AMD, and Intel and everyone else(because that is so pro AMD) will have this for free because it's a painfully basic idea that Nvidia can't possibly patent, that will end up as another lock in Nvidia feature. I got pure rubbish constantly thrown back at me for nothing but realistic posts about the future of freesync and what it means for Nvidia users.
 
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humbug said:
No argument from me, i have said many time that AMD seem to be fast asleep at the best of times.

"oh look at that, we did this 3 years ago"

WELL WHY DIDN'T it out.OU ROLE IT OUT THEN????? LUNATICS!!!! :confused:
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Whats the point in rolling it out if the monitor vendors dont have the hardware in the monitors to support it. Sure amd really should have and maybe did speak to them about rolling It out. Maybe Nvidia cards dont support it in there hardware for the same reason basically monitor hardware dragging its heals. It could be like tesselation where amd supported It for years where as Nvidia didnt until it was needed.
 
drunkenmaster said:
For the record, my somewhat gloaty "lol Nvidia" opening post wasn't aimed remotely at Nvidia, but at the people on here who basically ganged up together to tell me how much I hate Nvidia and how wrong I am because I dare suggest AMD, and Intel and everyone else(because that is so pro AMD) will have this for free because it's a painfully basic idea that Nvidia can't possibly patent, that will end up as another lock in Nvidia feature. I got pure rubbish constantly thrown back at me for nothing but realistic posts about the future of freesync and what it means for Nvidia users.
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So you freely admit you was trolling and baiting then :eek:
 
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