AMD Mantle Vs. Direct X Battlefield 4 Multiplayer Benchmarks

chief barker · 17 Feb 2014 at 15:28

Gregster said:
That is a shame, as others have seen benefits. Some have quite a hard time getting it to run but remember it is new, so give it time.

Cheers mate

Rusty0611 · 17 Feb 2014 at 15:28

Gregster said:
That is a shame, as others have seen benefits. Some have quite a hard time getting it to run but remember it is new, so give it time.

LOL

humbug said:
No its fine, i though it was aimed at me but i took it as a joke

Ha yeah it was a joke. I'm not really offended by it I do cringe sometimes. Ah well I'm not up to scratch on plenty of other things in life so...

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zenf · 17 Feb 2014 at 15:36

Rusty0611 said:
Ha ha yeah I know the feeling. I planned SLI 780s but it would be overkill and then some. That was then going to be me set for a while but I just thought I'd stay single for a bit. If you buy high end then usually 2 years is about what youc can expect before having to start thinking about dropping settings. Unless up crank the AA right up but I don't personally bother with external AA solutions.

I went with the R9 290 as I'd read it was better bang for buck than the 780, annoyingly though I got one of the early Powercolor PCS+ which I think has a faulty GPU as I'm pretty sure mine is from the first batch with the mining issues. Haven't built the new rig to test it yet though so it's still all packaged up, thinking about sending it back and getting a 780, mostly because I want a 1440p 144hz monitor and the Asus G-Sync one coming soon is looking like the best bet, and it'd be a bit silly to have a G-Sync monitor with an AMD card..

I'm not trying to start a G-Sync vs Mantle debate or anything though, honest..

I want both tbh!

flopper · 17 Feb 2014 at 15:44

Mantle smoother, faster better for mys etup.
Your may not.
Mantle is early beta and the last patch was a huge deal for Mantle from dice.
tomorow the expansion hits and I expect thing to go south.

Rusty0611 · 17 Feb 2014 at 15:50

zenf said:
I went with the R9 290 as I'd read it was better bang for buck than the 780, annoyingly though I got one of the early Powercolor PCS+ which I think has a faulty GPU as I'm pretty sure mine is from the first batch with the mining issues. Haven't built the new rig to test it yet though so it's still all packaged up, thinking about sending it back and getting a 780, mostly because I want a 1440p 144hz monitor and the Asus G-Sync one coming soon is looking like the best bet, and it'd be a bit silly to have a G-Sync monitor with an AMD card..

I'm not trying to start a G-Sync vs Mantle debate or anything though, honest.. I want both tbh!

Yeah may as well go nVidia if you're looking at the Gsync monitors.

Just noticed my phones auto correct went haywire on my previous post and because you've quoted it I can't clean it up.

- ah well

Shame we can't have everything, I agree. 780s are pretty decent value for money tbh.

~Mike~ · 17 Feb 2014 at 16:04

LtMatt said:
I know rofls thats why i said whatever hes using because i didn't recognise the name of it.

Guess you've not heard of this thing called 'google' then?

LtMatt said:
Did you wake up on the wrong side of bed this morning?

Nope.

shankly1985 · 17 Feb 2014 at 16:15

Not really silly to have Gsync Monitor with AMD card. After all it is my next upgrade just for the 1440p and 144hz
And whats to say it can't be hacked

you never know I am able to run Lightboost on my AMD cards without Nvidia. I fully understand they completely different tech but at this moment dont rule out the hacking community.

Rusty0611 · 17 Feb 2014 at 16:32

shankly1985 said:
Not really silly to have Gsync Monitor with AMD card. After all it is my next upgrade just for the 1440p and 144hz
And whats to say it can't be hacked you never know I am able to run Lightboost on my AMD cards without Nvidia. I fully understand they completely different tech but at this moment dont rule out the hacking community.

It is a bit silly considering the price premium currently.

~>Dg<~ · 17 Feb 2014 at 18:00

roy the boys slipping as usual

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q4fR36ix04&feature=youtu.be

lol uncapped . also nice dip to 30 fps in there

GoogalyMoogaly · 17 Feb 2014 at 18:58

humbug said:
For those who already have BandiCam.

Set BF4 to Full Screen Boarder Less, in BandiCam go to Target >> Rectangle On Screen. that will record BF4 in Mantle.

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Again Set BandiCam to use the AMD encoding app, it will use the GPU instead of the CPU to encode. its much better.

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Does Crossfire still work in Full Screen Boarder-less mode?

zenf said:
I hope you're right, I'm in the middle of a new build at the moment and it'd be nice if I could keep it maxed out for a while!

If game developers take to it (big if, I know), then it'd be silly of them not to really unless they have something better.

I've said it before (but I doubt I'm the only one to say something more than once on this forum), I think Nvidia would probably be better off not using Mantle. If they adopt it it's more likely to be widely used. If they don't then it'll mean it's an extra that has to be added in just for AMD. Might be enough to persuade enough developers not to use it. Unless Nvidia come up with something comparable I think they're better off trying to keep DirectX or OpenGL as the APIs of choice.

Rusty0611 said:
It matters because an ability to communicate effectively is better at delivering a point.

Sorry humbug wasn't picking on you only but bad grammar is a bugbear of mine. If you haven't already noticed .

I get raged at on PS4 by children with worse teams than mine in FIFA. Fortunately for me (not for them) they often have bad spelling and grammar so it can make for some funny exchanges .

+1

Lance9394 · 17 Feb 2014 at 19:21

TheRealDeal said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqB_32uVo1Q

Another user that can feel the benefits.

"Lastly, the most amazing thing is the perceived smoothness that this API delivers as it evenly renders frames at stable intervals."

Nvidia performance, smoothness is no better in bf4 under dx than amd's. So i would expect Nvidia users to notice the same benefits if mantle was usable on Nv cards.

If i remember correctly it was Nvidia users complaining more on bf4 release about choppy game play. Amd's dx performance seemed to be pretty good from the off where smoothness was concerned.

Dam that's some smooth gameplay, do u know what cared he was using and was it x fire

TheRealDeal · 17 Feb 2014 at 19:32

Lance9394 said:
Dam that's some smooth gameplay, do u know what cared he was using and was it x fire

Computer specs as of Mantle vs DX11.1 vid
Z77 MSI Mpower Mobo
I7 3770k @ 4.895ghz on water
Sapphire R9 290 1075mhz core/1400mhz memory
Sandisk 128gb SSD (OS)
OCZ Revodrive 240gb (1gbps)
32gb Patriot @ 2244mhz

Thats his pc spec. He was running at 1440p.

Lance9394 · 17 Feb 2014 at 19:42

TheRealDeal said:
Computer specs as of Mantle vs DX11.1 vid
Z77 MSI Mpower Mobo
I7 3770k @ 4.895ghz on water
Sapphire R9 290 1075mhz core/1400mhz memory
Sandisk 128gb SSD (OS)
OCZ Revodrive 240gb (1gbps)
32gb Patriot @ 2244mhz

Thats his pc spec. He was running at 1440p.

I'm running a similar system, but I left my sapphire r9 290 Tri x on 1000mhz and 1300mhz memory, and I play on 2550x1080, I get choppy gameplay on mantle 14.1 drivers, what seems to be the problem do u think?

TheRealDeal · 17 Feb 2014 at 19:50

Lance9394 said:
I'm running a similar system, but I left my sapphire r9 290 Tri x on 1000mhz and 1300mhz memory, and I play on 2550x1080, I get choppy gameplay on mantle 14.1 drivers, what seems to be the problem do u think?

I don't think you have a problem in your setup. It's most likely down to mantle being a really early beta version. Hopefully in future drivers and bf4 patches it will become stable for all users. You could try uninstalling the 14.1 drivers with ddu and reinstalling which has worked for some.

Here's a link to the latest version.

http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/display_driver_uninstaller_download.html

Lance9394 · 17 Feb 2014 at 19:53

TheRealDeal said:
I don't think you have a problem in your setup. It's most likely down to mantle being a really early beta version. Hopefully in future drivers and bf4 patches it will become stable for all users. You could try uninstalling the 14.1 drivers with ddu and reinstalling which has worked for some.

Here's a link to the latest version.

http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/display_driver_uninstaller_download.html

Yeh I waited this long for mantle, I might aswel wait for the full release of the drivers, but mantle sure looked fantastic when it does work, it blew me away in that youtube vid

shankly1985 · 17 Feb 2014 at 20:23

~>Dg<~ said:
roy the boys slipping as usual

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q4fR36ix04&feature=youtu.be

lol uncapped . also nice dip to 30 fps in there

Only happened the once when I first loaded the map nothing to put a downer on it lol the rest was superb.

LtMatt · 17 Feb 2014 at 20:26

shankly1985 said:
Only happened the once when I first loaded the map nothing to put a downer on it lol the rest was superb.

+1.

~>Dg<~ · 17 Feb 2014 at 23:39

fps was decent but it was more to do with roys comment and titling of bf4 uncapped (it wasn't )

it also didn't go close to 200 fps which made it slightly more funnier.

TheRealDeal · 17 Feb 2014 at 23:45

~>Dg<~ said:
fps was decent but it was more to do with roys comment and titling of bf4 uncapped (it wasn't ) it also didn't go close to 200 fps which made it slightly more funnier.

I think you should watch again especially between 2.21 and 2.23 when in fact the fps hits 200.

shankly1985 · 18 Feb 2014 at 01:19

~>Dg<~ said:
fps was decent but it was more to do with roys comment and titling of bf4 uncapped (it wasn't ) it also didn't go close to 200 fps which made it slightly more funnier.

What you talking about? Bf4 is max fps 200 meaning hard locked by the engine.
So yeah it was uncapped, the reason I put uncapped.

What's the next thing you must complain about?