AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

[TNA]

Ahh yes my bad I did miss a fair bit. Did think to myself am I missing something, which usually becomes the case with me .

Looks a quality monitor to be fair. Just got to hope after testing 165hz butterness, it doesn’t have you wanting one as well .

Yea, lets see how it goes. I am open to downgrading if I can deal with the drop in image quality

 

[melmac]

Yea, lets see how it goes. I am open to downgrading if I can deal with the drop in image quality

4K8K has already proved your blind mate, so don't worry you won't notice the drop in image quality.

 

[TNA]

4K8K has already proved your blind mate, so don't worry you won't notice the drop in image quality.

Did he? I must have missed that scientific paper he was about to release...

 

[melmac]

Did he? I must have missed that scientific paper he was about to release...

on images from his 2006 laptop

 

[TNA]

on images from his 2006 laptop

Oh yes, forgot about that!

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Regarding the sponsorships,it seems AMD is sponsoring the latest WoW expansion:
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-to-...w-shadowlands-free-with-radeon-rx-5000-series

At least I think it has dawned on them they need to get onboard with games,with larger playerbases(which Nvidia understands).

 

[gpuerrilla]

Drop it @CAT-THE-FIFTH

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Drop it @CAT-THE-FIFTH

It has more implications as Diablo 4 and Overwatch 2 are probably out in the next year or two,and their predecessors sold over 60 million copies. So getting their foot in the door with Activision Blizzard is no small feat,as they already had a deal going with Warcraft 3: Reforged recently,and AMD GPUs actually had quite competitive performance(compared to Nvidia). In the past Blizzard titles tended to work much better on Nvidia GPUs,which kind of biased a lot of people to buy Nvidia GPUs for them. WoW itself has a frequent playerbase in the millions.It's what they need to do to actually sway more people to buy AMD products.

So this is part of the problem,even if reviews show AMD GPUs with competitive performance,the problem is if they lose in games which generally have larger playerbases and more important persistent ones. This is partly the reason I think Nvidia keeps outselling AMD in certain aspects too. Is it any fluke,that ATI beat Nvidia in games such as HL2,and that the following X800 series actually outsold Nvidia?? ATI had mediocre mindshare before that.Technically the X800 series was inferior to the 6800 series(lack of DX9 SM3.0 support).

 

[melmac]

It has more implications as Diablo 4 and Overwatch 2 are probably out in the next year or two,and their predecessors sold over 60 million copies. So getting their foot in the door with Activision Blizzard is no small feat,as they already had a deal going with Warcraft 3: Reforged recently,and AMD GPUs actually had quite competitive performance(compared to Nvidia). In the past Blizzard titles tended to work much better on Nvidia GPUs,which kind of biased a lot of people to buy Nvidia GPUs for them. WoW itself has a frequent playerbase in the millions.It's what they need to do to actually sway more people to buy AMD products.

So this is part of the problem,even if reviews show AMD GPUs with competitive performance,the problem is if they lose in games which generally have larger playerbases and more important persistent ones. This is partly the reason I think Nvidia keeps outselling AMD in certain aspects too. Is it any fluke,that ATI beat Nvidia in games such as HL2,and that the following X800 series actually outsold Nvidia?? ATI had mediocre mindshare before that.Technically the X800 series was inferior to the 6800 series(lack of DX9 SM3.0 support).

First, they need to work with developers so that their games work at full performance right out of the gate not months later.

Second, Don't you think the x800 sold well was because ATI had two very launches with the 9700 and 9800 series cards where their cards were top dog. And Nvidia had completely messed up the FX series of GPUs.

So the X800 cards followed the most successful ATI GPUs ever and the possibly the worst Nvidia GPU ever.

So, seriously which do you think had more effect on mindshare back then? Do you think if the situation was reversed, and ATI's previous card was terrible but Nvidia previous two cards were amazing cards, that the X800 would have sold as well?

AMD getting more developers is great. But, it will make very little difference to mindshare if their GPUs aren't good. And good for a couple of generations without messing up launches.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

Imagine a Big Navi with a voucher discount on Zen3, that would be "of concern to Nvidia" and could cause them real problems without having to horrendously undercut them on price.

 

[humbug]

Voucher to get a Zen 3 CPU direct from AMD.
It would only cost AMD whatever it costs to make and ship them.

 

[EastCoastHandle]

I still like the Navi Credit Card with 0% interest for 12 months.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

I still like the Navi Credit Card with 0% interest for 12 months.

Hire purchase agreements on Titan GPUs I can see it now though in fairness if you are someone that likes to regularly upgrade and keep parts for 1-2yrs max then there maybe a business model in there somewhere

 

[StriderX]

They could always go the full hog and do a subscription tier service with up-selling on other products. This is where you're no longer allowed to buy them outright and merely own the license to run the hardware, any tampering not part of say an excessively expensive overclocking subscription would void your relationship with the company. Maybe even find a way to add micro-transactions and gambling into the ecosystem.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

They could always go the full hog and do a subscription tier service with up-selling on other products. This is where you're no longer allowed to buy them outright and merely own the license to run the hardware, any tampering not part of say an excessively expensive overclocking subscription would void your relationship with the company. Maybe even find a way to add micro-transactions and gambling into the ecosystem.

You joke, but with how things have been in other industries it won't take long till one of these semi conductor companies decides to give it a try.

 

[Phixsator]

They could always go the full hog and do a subscription tier service with up-selling on other products. This is where you're no longer allowed to buy them outright and merely own the license to run the hardware, any tampering not part of say an excessively expensive overclocking subscription would void your relationship with the company. Maybe even find a way to add micro-transactions and gambling into the ecosystem.

When you wanted to overclock you would have to use a custom version of afterburner which required you to pay 5 pounds for a random OC. If it were unstable tough luck, pay 5 and try again

 

[TNA]

Lol. Now that might just kill PC gaming. Ridiculous idea

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

They could always go the full hog and do a subscription tier service with up-selling on other products. This is where you're no longer allowed to buy them outright and merely own the license to run the hardware, any tampering not part of say an excessively expensive overclocking subscription would void your relationship with the company. Maybe even find a way to add micro-transactions and gambling into the ecosystem.

IIRC,JHH joked about a subscription service at the Turing launch??

 

[FoxEye]

Sky already do this - nobody owns a Sky-Q box, even if they still charge £200 for the privilege of housing one in your home. And of course you still have to pay the monthly sub...

lolSky.

But if people are prepared to pay thousands a year for a Sky sub, I'm sure they'd pay the same for a gaming sub..

 

[dragonslayer]

AMD sponsoring wow is bigger news than most think as shadowlands is going to offer raytracing so it could be the first game we see AMD raytracing Vs Nvidia