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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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Are these things still due for September? Gets a bit frustrating sometimes checking threads for any solid info and having to scrape through drivel it's the same every build up to a release

Need a worthwhile upgrade to my Vega 56 Pulse asap
 
Relentless81 said:
Are these things still due for September? Gets a bit frustrating sometimes checking threads for any solid info and having to scrape through drivel it's the same every build up to a release

Need a worthwhile upgrade to my Vega 56 Pulse asap
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Can't be too much longer now, Nvidia will want to release Ampere alongside Cyberpunk2077, 17'th September, AMD will probably jump in shortly after. They said they would be releasing Desktop GPU before consoles. Which is probably somewhere between October and November.
 
Th0nt said:
Its blatent that the sides are discussing what to price release at so they dont shaft one another. Business only when it comes to this situation.
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Exactly, a gentleman's agreement.

Neither company wants a price war. The only winner would be the customer. AMD can't afford one as they'd lose and Nvidia don't want one as it would hit their bottom line.

If the rumoured info is correct and Nvidia release first in September AMD will pretty much price match when they release later.
 
five8five said:
Exactly, a gentleman's agreement.

Neither company wants a price war. The only winner would be the customer. AMD can't afford one as they'd lose and Nvidia don't want one as it would hit their bottom line.

If the rumoured info is correct and Nvidia release first in September AMD will pretty much price match when they release later.
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Intel would like a word with you.
 
humbug said:
Of course i'm making it up, i'm speculating. Silly.

1.5bn in the first 2 moths of console sales, At $120 a pop why not? that's 13m units, how many Bulldozer based embedded servers did AMD sell in 2013, with a server market share of 1%?
How much was it in 2012?
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We know that they only sold 7.2 million consoles in 2013. And you are saying that the rest of that segment makes nothing? That the whole of Enterprise, embedded and Semi Custom revenue was all consoles sales. It's not just server cpus. It's all embedded CPUs, GPUs, APUs are included in this section of their business. I would be surprised if AMD made more than 500 million from console sales for those two months.

In 2012 the business was split differently so it's impossible to compare. The Graphic division included all the consoles, and the Computing division had all the embedded stuff.

I will ask again about DLSS, What Game were you playing? What screen were you using?
 
Twinz said:
This.

AMD can't afford to "price match" Intel or Nvidia. They still don't have the mindshare for "We're just as good so buy ours for the same money as theirs."
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And its worked impossibly well for them, if only they could replicate this in the GPU space, all would be well.

The 'rainforest' bestsellers cap is today, post 10K series which are nowhere to be seen on these sales rankings.

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Th0nt said:
Its blatent that the sides are discussing what to price release at so they dont shaft one another. Business only when it comes to this situation.
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I'm fairly sure what's being said is that both companies hear things from within the industry that provides them with enough information about what the other has up their sleeve to guess at the performance of each other's next gen products.

You could call it industrial espionage if you want to but I think its more akin to people blabbing.
 
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humbug said:
And its worked impossibly well for them, if only they could replicate this in the GPU space, all would be well.
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The only thing is, AMD's discrete gaming GPU business is a distant 2nd priority compared to, well, just about everything else.

If they don't expect to shift much volume (they'll be realists when it comes to expectations), then going for high margin instead would sort of make sense.

Assuming that they must behave the same way to the CPU side of the business is, well, a little simplistic.
 
FoxEye said:
The only thing is, AMD's discrete gaming GPU business is a distant 2nd priority compared to, well, just about everything else.

If they don't expect to shift much volume (they'll be realists when it comes to expectations), then going for high margin instead would sort of make sense.

Assuming that they must behave the same way to the CPU side of the business is, well, a little simplistic.
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AMD were further behind Intel in the CPU space than AMD currently are behind Nvidia in the GPU space.

Having said that i don't think AMD could replicate what they did to Intel in the GPU space, for a start the GPU space is entirely gamers, a lot of people still buy Intel CPU's because they offer 10% more FPS at 1080P with an RTX 2080TI, tho they are a tiny proportion overall even of the larger gaming world, people like me look at that 10% and think £280 vs £170..... yeah i don't even have a 2080TI and i don't game at 1080P.
The rest of the PC world sees AMD's CPU crushing Intel everywhere else and rip AMD's hand off to get them.

But with GPU's you're targeting these people that will pay 40%+ more for 10% more FPS.
 
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