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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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Seems a bit suspect to me - though the AMD CPU string in Performance can be verbose the GPU one on AMD often uses shorter product designations, usually has the (TM) in there though I've seen cases where it doesn't, and doesn't usually have things like Liquid Cooled in the string.
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80 compute units oh please let it be so, that would hands down bring AMD back in the game if priced sensibly
just over a week before amd said we'd hear stuff as for what that stuff will be who knows, could just be xbox rubbish for now and no actual desktop parts, or like nvidias done in the past and show off some compute thing which is aimed at AI stuff. who knows.
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Big Navi HBM2e? Oh my, this decade is starting off in a great way!
Alleged AMD Next-Gen Flagship Navi ‘Radeon RX’ GPU Specifications Leaked – 5120 Cores, 24 GB HBM2e Memory, 2 TB/s Bandwidth
https://wccftech.com/amd-next-gen-flagship-radeon-rx-navi-gpu-specs-leak-5120-cores-24-gb-memory/
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Fake news!
Would be cool if true, but don’t hold your breath. I do not believe anything until it is officially from AMD!
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Oh dear confirmed by a Wccftech article, well that’s just lowered the truth factor down several percentile points
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Possibly a workstation card, as if true is gonna be *expensive* AF...
Just going with it rather than saying it's nonsensical garbage from wccftech, one would assume 24GB really only makes sense for workstation - I can't see the need to go that high (especially with the cost of HBM 2) for even 4k gaming cards at the moment?
I don't doubt necessarily that there will be a 24GB HBM2e 80CU card coming out soon. But the chances of it being for consumers appears to be virtually nil.
Why on earth would you put 24GB of extremely costly memory on a consumer card? You wouldn't.
This has to be Arcturus, the next evolution of GCN (whether it'll be called GCN we don't know).
Navi / RDNA have demonstrated far less memory bandwidth constrained performance than any of the GCN cards, particularly the latter ones.
Unless RDNA2 & the shift to 7nmEUV means they've extracted enormous performance uplift over Navi (read double or more per CU), there would be absolutely no rhyme or reason for doing this. IMO it could easily go up 50%, as Navi / RDNA1 was the pipe cleaner, and 7nmEUV should bring some significantly higher clocks. But double? Come on.
Unless their RT implementation needs masses of memory bandwidth .. but again, that seems pretty unlikely.
Why on earth would you put 24GB of extremely costly memory on a consumer card? You wouldn't.
This has to be Arcturus, the next evolution of GCN (whether it'll be called GCN we don't know).
Navi / RDNA have demonstrated far less memory bandwidth constrained performance than any of the GCN cards, particularly the latter ones.
Unless RDNA2 & the shift to 7nmEUV means they've extracted enormous performance uplift over Navi (read double or more per CU), there would be absolutely no rhyme or reason for doing this. IMO it could easily go up 50%, as Navi / RDNA1 was the pipe cleaner, and 7nmEUV should bring some significantly higher clocks. But double? Come on.
Unless their RT implementation needs masses of memory bandwidth .. but again, that seems pretty unlikely.
to put it into perspective 24GB of HBM2 plus the interposer will set you back about $400usd for wholesale pricing in 2020. I'm trying to have some leeway here, the actual price is $480usd but that is taken from 1 year ago so I gave benefit of the doubt it's gone a bit down since then but who knows it may even have gone up.
That sort of production cost is not for a consumer card. If people thought the 2080ti retail price was expensive wait till you see the pricing for this thing
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seems that way, and with the 12 terraflops of POWAAH!! on the new xbox seems they may finally be able to be a bit closer on the desktop with slightly higher clock speeds due to better cooling and power availability or id expect them to at least. still get the feeling they will be hitting 3070 speeds when everything's launched later this year which i guess its a step forward at least.
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If 24GB HBM2 + interposer is $480 then AMD could slide this monster in at $1,600, demolish the RTX Titan and still get the 45% margin Lisa Su wants.
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End of the day if they can take number 1 spot like the Titan RTX, they can charge silly moneys for it. But that is not what I am interested in, though I really want to see as it will help. I want them to bring out 2080Ti performance for £500 or less.
Personally, if it's not official I don't trust the info (and maybe not even then in certain matters). Rumours/leaks/etc I treat merely as gossip - purely for entertainment. It's just fun to speculate, because I'd love to see a HBM2(e) big Navi. I almost went for Radeon VII tho in the end it wasn't powerful enough, but the 16 GB of vram was a big selling point for me!
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LOL! Keep dreaming lad, keep dreaming (maybe in a year or two).
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3070 son! Believe it little boy!
We are talking about 35% improvement at a same price point or something here... Nothing major.
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