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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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KillBoY_UK said:
Fury X ?
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No not like that Fury X was a mouse in comparison as in the 295x2 was something like £1999 when released, it came out of left field and it was huge and was the fastest card at one point.

AMD did a sledgehammer to crack a walnut type release. It was a pretty magnificent move.
 
varkanoid said:
No not like that Fury X was a mouse in comparison as in the 295x2 was something like £1999 when released, it came out of left field and it was huge and was the fastest card at one point.

AMD did a sledgehammer to crack a walnut type release. It was a pretty magnificent move.
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No but the fury x was a little slower, much harder to get (didnt gibbo say they only got like 12 cards on release) and little more pricey than the air cooled 980ti.

Was the 295x2 really that much ? I remember the bargain £500 cards when they where trying to shift stock, I do remember the 550-600w (peaking more) power useage ignoring the recommended power spec for the PCIe connectors (75w from the slot and 150w X2 from each 8pin)

Great bit of PCB engineering on the 295x2 . Two GDDR 512bit bus gpu's on a single reasonably sized PCB is pretty metal.
 
love their comments about taking legal action against fake news, every single media outlet all peddles fake news, good luck trying to legally stop that... clowns
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
RTG better try and get the new Navi card with working drivers out sooner rather than later,as the RTX2000 series is due for replacement too.
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You know what's funny, Nvidia just released a driver today to fix a game crash that has been happening for a few months for some nvidia users! They is also a bunch of other fixes!

You don't here people going around slating nvidia drivers LOL What's even funnier is Apex devs were getting the blame you know because Nvidia can do no wrong THEY amazing!!

[Apex Legends]: The game may crash with error DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG 0x887A0006. [2679551]

Here are all the issues addressed by this driver release:

  • [Apex Legends]: The game may crash with error DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG 0x887A0006. [2679551]
  • [Mortal Kombat]: The game may randomly crash to the desktop without error [2813996]
  • [Zombie Army: Dead War 4][Vulkan][HDR]:Corrupted flickering occurs when in-game HDR is enabled. [200585136]
  • [Battleye][Low-Latency Mode]: Launching Battleye with NVIDIA Low Latency Mode set to Ultra may cause DWM to reset. [2834199]
  • [Twitch Studio]: The app shows corruption when Image Sharpening is enabled globally from the NVIDIA Control Panel [2811830]
  • Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed crashes when playing in a water level. [2826669]
  • [Zombie Army: Dead War 4][Vulkan]: Game may flicker when in-game HDR is enabled. [200585136]
  • [Red Dead Redemption 2][Vulkan]: Random crashes occur during gameplay on Pascal and older GPUs.[2822927]
As always, there are a few known issues as well:

Windows 10 Issues

  • [Zombie Army: Dead War 4][Ansel/Freestyle]: The Ansel & Freestyle tabs are unselectable. [2810884]
  • [Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege][Vulkan][G-SYNC]: When playing the game in Vulkan mode with G-SYNC enabled, flickering occurs after switching the game between full-screen and windowed mode.[200578641]
    • Note: To work around, either disable G-SYNC or play using an API other than Vulkan.
Windows 7 Issues

  • [World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth][DirectX 12]: The game crashes when switched from DirectX 11 to DirectX 12 mode. [200574934]

Guess all them Youtube channels will be happy enough with the traffic they gained on them videos!

I am by no means defending AMD here just to point out they is know issues with Navi !

But like Nvidia isn't perfect either! The issue I have is just how fast users jump onto AMD once they release a bad drive they all of a sudden they worst drivers ever LOL Like really they have gained grounds massive over the past 4 years, driver release after release for day 0 releases for well over a year!
This is what happens when you pushing for big changes you run into bugs! part and parcel of software coding and it will always happen when making big changes!

/little rant :D
 
shankly1985 said:
You know what's funny, Nvidia just released a driver today to fix a game crash that has been happening for a few months for some nvidia users! They is also a bunch of other fixes!

..........

/little rant :D
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I don't think Nvidia drivers are perfect too,but I didn't explain myself properly. Since these new cards are RDNA2 based with probably RT features,AMD will need at least a few months to get everything working properly with regards to performance. If they delay too long,Nvidia will have their next gen Turing derivative on 7NM,and Nvidia has already made the big change on 12NM,so should have less problems overall in getting maximum performance out of it. Turing is more or less a beta test IMHO for their next generation in many ways.

JediFragger said:
Not with Corona, I think it'll set some things back tbh.
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Maybe but it will affect both equally,and if RTG delay and delay,it will be another case of RTG releasing a flagship GPU,either after Nvidia has done so,or have a month or two lead.

What AMD needs to do,if they want to aim for the high end,is to have a RTX2080TI beater sooner rather than later. If not they will have to drop pricing to compete with whatever Nvidia has,and they are back to square one.

If anything,Ryzen solved one big problem AMD had with CPUs - lack of timely updates. If RTG does not keep to its cadences,it helps Nvidia even more.

For instance imagine if Navi had been released by January before the Nvidia Super relaunches?? The RX5700 and RX5700XT would have looked much better.

The same goes with Polaris - the way AMD was demoingthe cards for months,hints at a release date much earlier than the middle of 2016. It seems sadly the cards were probably delayed,and Nvidia had the GTX1060 out barely a month later spoiling the launch.
 
shankly1985 said:
You know what's funny, Nvidia just released a driver today to fix a game crash that has been happening for a few months for some nvidia users! They is also a bunch of other fixes!

You don't here people going around slating nvidia drivers LOL What's even funnier is Apex devs were getting the blame you know because Nvidia can do no wrong THEY amazing!!

[Apex Legends]: The game may crash with error DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG 0x887A0006. [2679551]

Here are all the issues addressed by this driver release:

  • [Apex Legends]: The game may crash with error DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG 0x887A0006. [2679551]
  • [Mortal Kombat]: The game may randomly crash to the desktop without error [2813996]
  • [Zombie Army: Dead War 4][Vulkan][HDR]:Corrupted flickering occurs when in-game HDR is enabled. [200585136]
  • [Battleye][Low-Latency Mode]: Launching Battleye with NVIDIA Low Latency Mode set to Ultra may cause DWM to reset. [2834199]
  • [Twitch Studio]: The app shows corruption when Image Sharpening is enabled globally from the NVIDIA Control Panel [2811830]
  • Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed crashes when playing in a water level. [2826669]
  • [Zombie Army: Dead War 4][Vulkan]: Game may flicker when in-game HDR is enabled. [200585136]
  • [Red Dead Redemption 2][Vulkan]: Random crashes occur during gameplay on Pascal and older GPUs.[2822927]
As always, there are a few known issues as well:

Windows 10 Issues

  • [Zombie Army: Dead War 4][Ansel/Freestyle]: The Ansel & Freestyle tabs are unselectable. [2810884]
  • [Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege][Vulkan][G-SYNC]: When playing the game in Vulkan mode with G-SYNC enabled, flickering occurs after switching the game between full-screen and windowed mode.[200578641]
    • Note: To work around, either disable G-SYNC or play using an API other than Vulkan.
Windows 7 Issues

  • [World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth][DirectX 12]: The game crashes when switched from DirectX 11 to DirectX 12 mode. [200574934]

Guess all them Youtube channels will be happy enough with the traffic they gained on them videos!

I am by no means defending AMD here just to point out they is know issues with Navi !

But like Nvidia isn't perfect either! The issue I have is just how fast users jump onto AMD once they release a bad drive they all of a sudden they worst drivers ever LOL Like really they have gained grounds massive over the past 4 years, driver release after release for day 0 releases for well over a year!
This is what happens when you pushing for big changes you run into bugs! part and parcel of software coding and it will always happen when making big changes!

/little rant :D
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Yeah. But mindshare right. When there is an issue with AMD people immediately think it is the ****** drivers. When the same happens with Nvidia they think something else is the problem or do not see it as a big deal like they would if it was an AMD card.

AMD have been stuck with the bad rep from the ATI days. They really should not have let this driver issues occur because until recently I do not recall them getting so much stick about their drivers.

In the end it is what it is. They just need to do better. But I get the feeling people will be going on about AMD drivers being crap again for another 10 years now.
 
@CAT-THE-FIFTH
My post wasn't singling you out, it was aimed at the mass.
Just want to clear that up
TNA said:
Yeah. But mindshare right. When there is an issue with AMD people immediately think it is the ****** drivers. When the same happens with Nvidia they think something else is the problem or do not see it as a big deal like they would if it was an AMD card.

AMD have been stuck with the bad rep from the ATI days. They really should not have let this driver issues occur because until recently I do not recall them getting so much stick about their drivers.

In the end it is what it is. They just need to do better. But I get the feeling people will be going on about AMD drivers being crap again for another 10 years now.
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This will never change sadly AMD will also battle with misleading information.

This goes even further than drivers also, amd are even known for being hot and loud for example
 
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