I think hardware unboxed did a video comparing cards and the vega happened to be at the bottom of the graph. It was because of the increase particularly at 1440p which made me jump.
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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I think hardware unboxed did a video comparing cards and the vega happened to be at the bottom of the graph. It was because of the increase particularly at 1440p which made me jump.
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Nice one I'll find the video later
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Rumoured October.
Well it seems RDNA2 packs a huge amount of punch per mm2 of die ...
The XBOX SoC is 360mm2 including the 8 Zen 2 cores, and the GPU with 52 Navi2X CUs, 1800Mhz clock and 12TF peak throughput.
That's a really, really big improvement on Navi1X, which is 250mm2 and 8.2TF (with an obviously larger TDP).
The XBOX SoC is 360mm2 including the 8 Zen 2 cores, and the GPU with 52 Navi2X CUs, 1800Mhz clock and 12TF peak throughput.
That's a really, really big improvement on Navi1X, which is 250mm2 and 8.2TF (with an obviously larger TDP).
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Even if the CPU is Renoir based with less L3 cache,the GPU part still looks very small for a 56CU part with raytracing.
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It's 52CU but still small considering. I think most rumours suspected 56CU to be able to achieve 12TF but the fact AMD has managed that performance with only 52CU makes it even more impressive imo.
Now I'm wondering what an 80CU part is capable of...
Edit: You're right about it being a 56CU part, my bad, I was only counting enabled units and this has 4CUs disabled for redundancy and yield targets.
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RIP Navi
Xbox Series X final specs
CPU: Zen 2 16 threads @ locked 3.8ghz
GPU: RDNA 2 52CUs @ locked 1.83ghz = 12.2 tflop
Memory: 16GB GDDR6 @ 560Gbps
1 TB PCIE4 SSD @ 4.8 Gbps
4k Bluray Drive
Image Output: 4k 120hz, 8k 60hz, AMD Freesync, HDMI Forum VRR, HDR 10, Dolby Vision
Xbox Series X final specs
CPU: Zen 2 16 threads @ locked 3.8ghz
GPU: RDNA 2 52CUs @ locked 1.83ghz = 12.2 tflop
Memory: 16GB GDDR6 @ 560Gbps
1 TB PCIE4 SSD @ 4.8 Gbps
4k Bluray Drive
Image Output: 4k 120hz, 8k 60hz, AMD Freesync, HDMI Forum VRR, HDR 10, Dolby Vision
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Quite amazing what they doing with such a small chip tbh
Show casing a fully path traced game. Gears running around 2080 performance 4k ultra at 60fps
Now imagine a fully desktop RDNA 2 GPU am sorry but I think am even more hyped by this.
Show casing a fully path traced game. Gears running around 2080 performance 4k ultra at 60fps
Now imagine a fully desktop RDNA 2 GPU am sorry but I think am even more hyped by this.
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You know this is still Navi, right?
this is Navi 2, I should have clarified RIP to Navi 1, ie 5700xt owners
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The game was only quickly ported over to RDNA2,and DF mentioned not all the features were used,and there was more room for optimisations.
You know this is still Navi, right?
Exactly. This is a smaller lower power version. Now imagine a full fat, high power desktop version. A good big one will always beat a good little one
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If that is what a 52CU can do I can only imagine what an 80CU would do. Wow, the hairs on the back of my neck just stood up 
AMD really need to be putting these type of APU inside their Laptops so they can take it to Intel/Nvidia
I know these things don't scale linearly but 80cus should be a monster as long as there is no bottleneck somewhere else, I'd guess 50% faster than this Xbox - and as awesome as that sounds, it would still fall short of expect RTX3080ti performance by a little bit.
WHich goes to show, we're only amazed by the Xbox because of today's GPUs. By the end of this year desktop GPU's will blowing right past this Xbox easily.
It was a good idea for Microsoft to spec drop so soon so they could beat Navi 2 desktop and Turing desktop - they know those cards will beat the Xbox, they want to be first to build hype and pre orders. Microsoft says it doesn't think of playstation as it's competitor, it wants to compete with PC and cloud, so it makes sense for them to drop specs so quickly.
I know these things don't scale linearly but 80cus should be a monster as long as there is no bottleneck somewhere else, I'd guess 50% faster than this Xbox - and as awesome as that sounds, it would still fall short of expect RTX3080ti performance by a little bit.
WHich goes to show, we're only amazed by the Xbox because of today's GPUs. By the end of this year desktop GPU's will blowing right past this Xbox easily.
It was a good idea for Microsoft to spec drop so soon so they could beat Navi 2 desktop and Turing desktop - they know those cards will beat the Xbox, they want to be first to build hype and pre orders. Microsoft says it doesn't think of playstation as it's competitor, it wants to compete with PC and cloud, so it makes sense for them to drop specs so quickly.
The 4000 series announced at CES already do, and they're using a refined Vega. Tiger Lake should be interesting but then it'll be facing off against a Zen 3 + RDNA 2 APU. Not sure what Nvidia have in the pipeline, but if the next Zen APUs and Tiger Lake are as good as rumoured, I'm not sure you'd need an Nvidia card outside of the ludicrously expensive gaming laptops.
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