AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

[doody]

Wasn't the 5700xt significantly cheaper than the equivalent 2070?

My sapphire rx 7500 pull's was £420

 

[Mr Oblong]

think its already in a frenzy with those benches, and by the hints looks as if it wasnt top navi, something around 3070 performance but cheaper will suit me budget wise, just hoping its not a paper launch and theres plentiful stock, though knowing AMD history im not holding my breath on that one

After the 3080 launch, this feels like it's more important than benchmarks!

 

[LePhuronn]

I don't think either company are going for an MCM design inside a year - we'd have got wind of it by now if so as it isn't a change that will happen in isolation (unless someone has made an incredible hardware breakthrough).

Well AMD and Nvidia better get a wriggle on because Intel is already MCM and scaling very well, if they can get their interconnect power draw under control (allegedly).

 

[LePhuronn]

Wasn't the 5700xt significantly cheaper than the equivalent 2070?

IIRC it was about $20 cheaper when announced and was the superior card in AMD's charts. Nvidia countered with the Supers. AMD could've kept the price the same given the SUpers were more expensive than the non-Supers, but AMD dropped the 5700 series prices anyway.

Apparently it was an intentional "jebait" but I kinda don't believe it. If it was intentional then Scott Herkelman wouldn't have looked so nervous when he announced the 5700 XT price and the room went silent

 

[Rroff]

Well AMD and Nvidia better get a wriggle on because Intel is already MCM and scaling very well, if they can get their interconnect power draw under control (allegedly).

Wake me up when they actually release something

 

[LePhuronn]

Wake me up when they actually release something

I will do if somebody else wakes me up first

The Tigerlake GPU tile looks nice though.

 

[Troezar]

I will do if somebody else wakes me up first

The Tigerlake GPU tile looks nice though.

I'm really looking forward to seeing what Intel do. I think three competitors will really shake things up, at least at the lower end initially.

 

[Mumee]

What matters is the release prices which were :
2070/2070S = MSRP $500
5700XT = MSRP $400

$100 is quite much difference for similar performance at that level.

 

[Rroff]

I will do if somebody else wakes me up first

The Tigerlake GPU tile looks nice though.

We've only seen compute benchmarks though so far and that is fairly easy to scale - there doesn't seem to have been any information about how they would handle gaming processing over multiple tiles and that needs much more than some fancy interconnects to get anything close to linear scaling per module/tiles.

 

[KillBoY_UK]

https://twitter.com/Bullsh1t_buster/status/1316431341659987968

maybe, maybe not but that BB has not been around long (less than 2 weeks) and likes to use slurs that would get you banned on here

 

[pugheaven]

I can't see how you can give a company credit for inactivity. If and when they launch a superior product at a competitive price then they will certainly deserve credit.

You can in the way they've not been spouting crap like nVidia, they've not got any news so didn't just make up a load of rubbish... nvidia talked and released and actually has caused problems. It used to be AMD got slated for not being ready or lying or whatever, now they'r ebeing quiet until they're actually ready and we can't give them credit for being more professional? I believe we can, I think everything they've done upto now with Big Navi is exactly right... let nVidia mess their release up, not rush their own... and hey presto... we shall see if this was the right approach but i've never had any problem wqaiting for them to realse and 28th it is, perfectl fine waiting even if others demand information for the past 2 months.

 

[Rroff]

let nVidia mess their release up, not rush their own

Not pointing at you but I find this notion that AMD knew nVidia's release was going to be a shambles ahead of times and just let them do it a bit laughable - especially when those posters then go on to post a load of things about the nVidia release which didn't go well which were impossible to know ahead of time.

It is time I think some posters do what AMD has started doing and taking that more professional approach and letting the product do much of the talking.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Not pointing at you but I find this notion that AMD knew nVidia's release was going to be a shambles ahead of times and just let them do it a bit laughable - especially when those posters then go on to post a load of things about the nVidia release which didn't go well which were impossible to know ahead of time.

It is time I think some posters do what AMD has started doing and taking that more professional approach and letting the product do much of the talking.

Why defending nvidia though? Shareholder, vested interest, sponsored?

All he has done is highlight that if AMD dont make a big sing and dance before the launch, its going to be a fail to take the heat off nvidia unless they pull out a unicorn. Just acknowledge that nvidia has done a dung launch and the cards are at best average in gaming at this stage. You cannot even get hold of one even though they launched a month ago now..

 

[pugheaven]

Not pointing at you but I find this notion that AMD knew nVidia's release was going to be a shambles ahead of times and just let them do it a bit laughable - especially when those posters then go on to post a load of things about the nVidia release which didn't go well which were impossible to know ahead of time.

It is time I think some posters do what AMD has started doing and taking that more professional approach and letting the product do much of the talking.

I didn't say AMD new about it matey, it was more a reference to AMD let nVidia get on with whatever they get on with... i.e. not be forced into action due to nVidia releasing.... maybe my wording wasn't the best in the original post.

AMD, haven't (it seems) been stressed about nVidia, and why would they. If nVidia had had an amazing card, loads of supply and a silky release, there's still nothing AMD could've done about it. However, lukcily for AMD nVidia have been shocking... however agreed, AMD never knew that would happen, however what they didn't do is two things here

1). Announce things that weren't 100% to react to nVidias 3000 series... i.e. lie or make things up to scupper nVidida...
2). They didn't then releaase something earlier than needed and then be crapped on by public moaning about things being released unfinished...

so for me, I like and approve how AMD have gone through this and I've never had a problem waiting for them to release.

 

[alec]

Anybody else find potential release names 6800XT or 6900XTX not that inspiring?
AMD should call it RX Big Navi and be done. Vega got it's star name, why should this be different?

 

[Rroff]

I didn't say AMD new about it matey

As I said not pointing at you - more in respect to the kind of posts you were referring to and/or had similar claims but put in a different way.

Why defending nvidia though? Shareholder, vested interest, sponsored?

All he has done is highlight that if AMD dont make a big sing and dance before the launch, its going to be a fail to take the heat off nvidia unless they pull out a unicorn. Just acknowledge that nvidia has done a dung launch and the cards are at best average in gaming at this stage. You cannot even get hold of one even though they launched a month ago now..

Where am I defending nVidia?

 

[BigBANGtheory]

These cards aren't going to be cheap to produce, and I think the 3080 pricing would have caused concern so I fully expect these to at least match them with more vRam and poss slightly less performance? We'll soon find out!

but what is Nvidia's true 3080 price though, even those that have one who actually paid £650 for it?

a few weeks ago when I was looking another retailer announced the TUF 3080 was discontinued i.e. no one wants to sell you a 3080 now below £720 - £800

basically Nvidia manipulated things so as to sell a bare minimum number of reasonable value 3080s ever see the light of day

 

[Rroff]

basically Nvidia manipulated things so as to sell a bare minimum number of reasonable value 3080s ever see the light of day

I find these claims funny - one minute it is nVidia manipulated things the next they are having yield issues, etc. consequence of rushing, etc. hence no supply - regardless of what the truth actually is. Same with the whole 7nm TSMC thing where one minute it is all "absolutely no way nVidia can switch to 7nm TSMC" then the next "desperate switch to 7nm TSMC"... based more on the agenda of the poster than the actuality of things.

 

[gpuerrilla]

They subsidised the AIBs for first few weeks. These people cant make them for £649 there is no margin. Nvidia knew this and have now stopped selling the cards themselves...

 

[LePhuronn]

there doesn't seem to have been any information about how they would handle gaming processing over multiple tiles and that needs much more than some fancy interconnects to get anything close to linear scaling per module/tiles.

I'll spare you the rumours then