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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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RavenXXX2 said:
AMD does not want Radeon RX 6000 series to be sold to scalpers

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https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-issues-guidelines-to-retailers-to-prevent-radeon-rx-6000-scalping
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I wonder if this means that they think they also won't have enough stock on launch?
 
LePhuronn said:
In the absence of an official sarcasm emoji I had to drop the /s just in case.

(and no, I've not fitted the bed yet, been too busy and poorly to gut the spare room and actually uncover the printer. Soon though, and thanks again)
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Awesome just glad it is there and made it without being bent like the current one :D

Im not even bothered about supply this time around I pre-empted issues so have a massive disti saving me a couple. If they turn out to be bad then I wont take them. Job done.
 
Good for AMD even if it's still just recommendations. I imagine demand will be high enough that they could even make these a requirement before their partners are allowed to sell the cards but that might be a step too far......
 
Stu999 said:
It just needs to be within 10% and a reasonable price and they will pick up a lot of Nvidia potential customers so long as the price is also good.



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I skim read the magazine article and I don't think it says that at all but it does refer to the technical partnership with Nvidia. It also mentions raytracing being built into the engine.



Yes it is.
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You are right.


I just read it. No mention of AMD, Navi, GeForce only, nothing at all.

The idea that cp2077 won't RT on rdna2 at launch of both is complete horse ***. Anyone who repeats it is deliberately spreading garbage
 
pugheaven said:
My worry is now though, once Big Navi is released, loads of the nVidia people on back order will go sod this, cancel and move to AMD
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Never going to happen. Just think of "because..drivers" and the nvidia poison mindshare infecting them its too ingrained to get them to wake up and shift. Think of Ryzen, its took 4 generations to get a grip and I still see people with intel builds in their sigs only talking about the 5000 series like its a new craze.

Vince said:
I see what you are doing here.. clever!
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Very clever ;)
 
LePhuronn said:
If you're going to pre-order a card purely based on Uncle Jensen's marketing numbers then I really doubt you're interested in an AMD product. Unless Big Navi soundly beats Ampere at every tier and in every metric for a chunk less money, I don't see many people cancelling their Ampere orders. Because even if AMD offer the superior product at a cheaper price, AMD drivers suck, can't do DLSS and Nvidia has the superior software stack /s
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Not convinced on that mate, as I was originally going to buy a 3090 (infact two just for the hell of it but that was after a few beers) ... benchrmarks came and thought yeah mmmmm might just wait on that now...as I just wanted something new and got drawn into it all and I've only owned AMD for a decade now... then when it all kicked off I thought sod it I'll wait. I do get where your'e coming from however, if a current nVidia pre order isn't going to get their card until January 2021 and they've got 800 quid sitting there and they can get an AMD card for less of equivalent performance, I'm not convinced DLSS when AMD has RIS itself and that'll be improved on, you'll find a lot of already cheesed off people will switch without a doubt. Even a mate of mine who's always been team green cancelled his order last week as he'd had enough of the BS and he's owned green for a decade... you'd be surprised just how fickle people are when they simply can't even get hold of a piece of hardware you'd put 800 quid into... I certainly would not be sitting there will companies holding my coin with a January date on a card... for me... it's about availability...

yeah I get what you'r saying but I'd also say a lot of cheesed off people... hence the mental amount of trheads on 3000 series and moaning... understandbale to some extent I feel. me personally RT isn't a deal breaker and most people it's not. AMD needs some sort of DLSS (even if based on a different tech, their RIS is very clever in itself and works)... we all know as a complete package nVidia will be better, always going to be the case in current timelines BUT people wanna play games, they wanna play at high frame rates and other than the diehard green people, a lot may move.

EDIT: And AMD drivers don't suck, certainly not on my machine, haven't in years. Been perfectly happy with them bar one release... in the last 18 months.
 
Th0nt said:
Never going to happen. Just think of "because..drivers" and the nvidia poison mindshare infecting them its too ingrained to get them to wake up and shift. Think of Ryzen, its took 4 generations to get a grip and I still see people with intel builds in their sigs only talking about the 5000 series like its a new craze.
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Maybe for the pure green crew, but those who aren't blinkered may well switch, we see it on OCUK right now, peope cancelling orders everywhere now, as they can't be bothered and possibly being juiced by AMD... and turning... it'll happen it's just a matter of how many...
 
I hope theres reviewer benchmarks up before orders, especially if there are AIB cards.

Then I can pick out which suits my needs, i dont mind reference but if I can get a partner card of the same chip for a little more i generally go down that route.

Sapphire and Powercolor for me are the usual cards i buy, Nitro+ or a Red Devil etc.

Would be nice if an AMD partner made a white shrouded card this time round :)
 
pugheaven said:
Maybe for the pure green crew, but those who aren't blinkered may well switch, we see it on OCUK right now, peope cancelling orders everywhere now, as they can't be bothered and possibly being juiced by AMD... and turning... it'll happen it's just a matter of how many...
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Public mindshare though - a lot of the general public, with no brand allegiance as such, will still buy a slower nVidia cards over a faster AMD one just because it has the nVidia logo on it and they've been told [by the marketing, etc.] nVidia is better.
 
pugheaven said:
yeah I get what you'r saying but I'd also say a lot of cheesed off people... hence the mental amount of trheads on 3000 series and moaning... understandbale to some extent I feel.
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I have an alternate theory... those waiting this long have lost the hype and a good number of them, if they cancel would be mentally fatigued to board another hype.. it's just one of those psychological things, so it all boils down to how many of those cancelling do not have a GPU to power on
 
LePhuronn said:
I wonder if Gigabyte will extend their Vision line to Big Navi? The Vision 3080 is quite the looker.
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Isnt it silver or like brushed chrome etc? I personally dont buy MSI or Gigabyte products anymore..

MSI i had 2 x 290s and they were terrible, backplates heated up badly, ended up swapping them for Sapphire Tri-X and Toxic and never looked back. Ontop of that their recent actions with GPP, bribing techtubers and the whole Ebay debacle means i personally will never buy their products again.

As for Gigabyte, i had all sorts of issues with my Gigabyte Sniper mobo with my 4770k, audio died, bad bioses, had to RNA and replacement motherboard wasnt any better. Ontop of that they now seem to be thinking they are ASUS with their pricing.. Definitely not for me anymore.

Powercolor seem to be decent, my 5700XT Red Devil has been flawless, my Sapphire Vega was also very good, and the 6 x 5600XT Nitros i have are exceptionally quiet, and quite nice looking
 
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