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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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KentMan said:
Nvidia actually done everyone a favour by kinda resetting or almost bringing back prices a bit with the 3080 for £650, although extremely few will ever see that MSRP, it kinda forces AMD to meet similar prices.

Lets be honest here, if AMD release card within a few % perf of the 3080 they simply can not charge more for it, no one is buying a card that is slightly slower but lacks RT perf and DLSS, the question is how much less is the lack of those things worth?

£500-£600 is my guess, hedging towards £600, then how much more is 3090 perf worth? £400?? No, £200 tops id say
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They probably could charge the same at this point purely because 99% of the people that want 3000 series cards just can't get them.
 
LePhuronn said:
Nvidia price gouging is AMD's fault? You really need to stop that rhetoric. But as I replied to danlightbulb, Turing wasn't a one-off. Nvidia have been doing this since Kepler into Maxwell, and ATI were very competitive then.

770: $399
970: $349
1070: $450
2070: $599

All of those increases are way above inflation and massively shift the cost of the 70 class cards upwards. Ampere won't be any different because the MSRP is a marketing lie.
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If I recall correctly each of those cards beat AMD's equivalent at the time.
 
midweek said:
I think he means with some "NVidia=Best" regardless of price or performance. And if they (AMD) cost less they, as consumers, are missing a change to vote with their wallets for better pricing all round. Dunno though.
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You sir, are correct. I guess if some struggle reading that then its why we still have the 80% mindshare. ;)

There is a small subset on here that abide by this strange rule that AMD exist to make their nvidia cards cheaper (as they will never buy AMD hardware). So when they state nonesense like above, what they want is 'competition' but even if an AMD is better, they still buy the nvidia.. cos of yanno 'reasons'.

So its basically a lie. Why would AMD compete so you can buy a fractionally discounted nvidia card? really lol.
 
Th0nt said:
You sir, are correct. I guess if some struggle reading that then its why we still have the 80% mindshare. ;)

There is a small subset on here that abide by this strange rule that AMD exist to make their nvidia cards cheaper (as they will never buy AMD hardware). So when they state nonesense like above, what they want is 'competition' but even if an AMD is better, they still buy the nvidia.. cos of yanno 'reasons'.

So its basically a lie. Why would AMD compete so you can buy a fractionally discounted nvidia card? really lol.
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Please leave me out of this discussion..
I was hinting at perf parity with 3080 in DX11.. nowhere did I say it is better as you are alluding
Also I was unsure whom you were conversing with?
 
After about 10 years of using Intel and Nvidia exclusively, I’m looking forward to building a Ryzen based system with hopefully one of the new Navi cards.

If the performance is there and the pricing is competitive I’ll be happy to try and shoehorn both into my Dr Zaber case.

I have a 1660 Super and a OG 1660 in my server. I’ve gone through a 1080, 980, 780, 2x 480, 2x 8800. Bought a 970 for my dad and briefly had a Quadro P620 to play with. I’ve bought at least 11 Nvidia GPUs in the last 10 years and maybe 1-2 from AMD because they’ve had nothing worthwhile whenever I’ve looked.

I’m not sure I can listen to any more of Jensens **** after all these years so I really do hope things are about to change.
 
Th0nt said:
So you had a bad experience once on a 2x0 card and now they will never be forgiven? I owned one (290X) and it was a good card. Also that was what 8 years ago, the only justifying here is your nvidia purchase not the other way around.
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I am actually on a used 270X right now while I wait for the 3080 (sold my 1080Ti ~month ago), after seeing they explicitly fixed the dual monitor black screen bug, haven't had any issues so far, so I would recommend them for gaming, but for my use case I use a lot of Nvidia-only features like CUDA and I've found the Nvidia settings to be better eg: when changing color settings ingame.

The only way AMD can lure me to cancel the 3080 and get a 6900 is if the price/performance ratio is very favorable.
 
Bluntwrapped said:
After about 10 years of using Intel and Nvidia exclusively, I’m looking forward to building a Ryzen based system with hopefully one of the new Navi cards.

If the performance is there and the pricing is competitive I’ll be happy to try and shoehorn both into my Dr Zaber case.

I have a 1660 Super and a OG 1660 in my server. I’ve gone through a 1080, 980, 780, 2x 480, 2x 8800. Bought a 970 for my dad and briefly had a Quadro P620 to play with. I’ve bought at least 11 Nvidia GPUs in the last 10 years and maybe 1-2 from AMD because they’ve had nothing worthwhile whenever I’ve looked.

I’m not sure I can listen to any more of Jensens **** after all these years so I really do hope things are about to change.
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Did you see the video Rroff posted on one of the threads about what Jensen said, maybe he post it.
 
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