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I would be happy with that statement with the ending changed to 3080! 
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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Over 10k is low? 3080 is something like 10.8 isn't it?
My overclocked 2080ti is 9.4k in FSU graphics score so would think something close to 3080 would be not bad depending on pricing.
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As long as the performance at every price point improves, the names of the cards don't matter.
They could have priced the 3060 at $700 and I would buy it if it performed identical to what they are now calling the "3080".
How fast? How much? Names mean nothing.
They could have priced the 3060 at $700 and I would buy it if it performed identical to what they are now calling the "3080".
How fast? How much? Names mean nothing.
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I just looked at data from guru3d.. it seems navi first gen regresses relatively at DX 12 when compared to 3080
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Take it up with Google then
This video, it ****** me off how nonchalant about it he is, it shows what he thinks about customer's, he doesn't even hide it, it shows what a huge ego he has. imho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r-c1eTjs9w
1m is also over 10k. What do you want to say?
Barely beating your very old RTX 2080 Ti is a failure, from every single point of looking view.
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Take it up with Google then
Aye but like the current 3080 prices, its meant to be £649. We all know that a) theres none in stock and b) retailers are selling for £700+ not including the serious gouging. So if google says 650 its going to be wrong on 2020 searches as most places selling them are way more than their RRP.
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Forgetting price?
Eh? The video you linked doesn't even give any indication as to what number he is referring to. It is completely without context.
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This logic just completely baffles me, "names don't matter" is just a ludicrous argument. How do you segment products then? Apple started out well. They produced 1 phone model and charged an amount for it. No arguments, no comparisons, no tiers, 1 phone. But even they started segmenting their phones into bigger versions with more features. That is what names and tiers are for, to differentiate products and features.
What you say is "fine" is the problem. The 60 class card is supposed to be the start of the midrange, the 70 class adds a bit more, the 80 more again. And you charge accordingly as the feature set increases. But the performance at every price point isn't increasing because the price points are going up to match performance. Why would you pay $700 for a 60 class card? Are you insane? There is no technological progression then if Nvidia charge the same money for the same performance generation on generation, bumping up the prices every time. The current gen 60 class may perform the same as the previous gen 70 class, but if that 60 class now also costs the same, where is the progression? Are you honestly saying that the price of entry into PC gaming should be hundreds upon hundreds of dollars because, somehow, names don't matter and performance just costs money?
And people wonder how Nvidia can get away with ridiculous price gouging. It's moronic.
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Yup it's like saying I will upgrade my 1080 ti to rtx 8020 in 2030.. clearly it will meet price /perf parameters and name won't matter either..
Price is irrelevant and already tiring topic when it comes for Radeon graphics.
We demand the ultimate performance and general high performance leaps, no matter the prices.
I disagree with you.
Let you have your RX 6700 XT at RTX 2080 Ti plus 10-15%, I will rather own my RX 6900 XT at RTX 3090 plus...
Well he not talking about washing machines and as Nvidia has just launched 3080/90.
Yes it could be anything but as there is a big shortage of 3080/90 just launched and maybe i am wrong and he not on about 3080/90 but if he is, I don't like how nonchalant he is about it as many people are waiting for their cards and getting upset about it..
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I mnean it from a realistic point of view which is how the comment was made i.e. we're all thinking that AMD do somethign special they're going to be cheap as chips and hand over all their work for free... this is what I mean, we need to be relaitic and the statement I made was around the 3090, if they had a beater or equal card, they're not going to be £700 quid cheaper than nVidia are they, i.e. lets get ready for no cheap cards within reason. The fact is we won't be gettiong these cards for £499 (and yes I'm being silly with the price) and we're blinkerd if we think we will...
TV's aren't even in the same ball aprt so a unrealistic comparison, you have god knows how many makers fighting for surpremacy and this reduce prices, GPU's we have two companies. If one sells for £999 the other one isn't going to sell something of similqar spec for £499, that's deluded. Therefore, dont' expect free performance, you'll be pay top dollar. Just because AMD has been cheaper int he past, dont' expect miracles is my point which I thought was clear, obviously not.
We all know that we shouldnt' be paying what we do, but as there's only a choice of two brands they have us and peiople as proven with the 2080TI will pay mental money, so why won't they charge. AMD is a company and will want massive profits, therefore, they'll undercut nVidia tops by 10% and infact wouldnt' surprise me if they price match to a certain extent. You get more performance, but you pay for it and if it's faster than 3090 it'll cost more prbably!
I bought a Vega 56, loved it and still do until it's retired, however going by others opinions and raft of benchmarks etc it was a terrible purchase, value is in the eye of the beholder, I genuinely wish you well with your 6900 XT if it brings you happiness
Just... lol...
Do you really think he would video himself talking about the 3080 launch in that context? It doesn't even make sense. Honestly, some of you are a sandwich short of a picnic.
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